Rosen Sunvisors

How to keep the Cessna 170 flying and airworthy.

Moderators: GAHorn, Karl Towle, Bruce Fenstermacher

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby Karl Towle » Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:50 am

I neglected to post pictures of my installation. I took the approach of mounting from the stock single #10 nut-plate. I started out by fabricating two bushings that would just fit in one of the lightning holes in the Rosen bracket, but with the hole for the #10 cap screw off center like this:
RosenBushings.jpg

However, there was no way to use the stock mounting hole, without modifying their bracket. So, the outboard sides were milled off, and the finished installation looks like this:
RosenBracket.jpg

To install, insert the offset bushing and screw, then turn the bushing to pull the bracket back tight to the front of the spar carry-through, while tightening the cap-screw. The trim around the wing-root vent also needed to be trimmed for clearance
I've been very happy with this installation, and so far, have had no problems with the single screw loosening in service.
User avatar
Karl Towle
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:02 pm

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby DaveF » Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:39 pm

That’s a great solution, Karl. I wish I was that clever.
User avatar
DaveF
 
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:44 am
Location: Louisville CO

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby ghostflyer » Thu Apr 15, 2021 12:16 am

I ordered new Rosen sun visors from a supplier and stored them for about 13 months , [I had Cessna ones already fitted from the factory]. I am very time poor and have many other projects on the go. So one day I thought I had a couple of spare hours [lock down relaxed] and opened the sealed box. To my shock and horror the ones in the box didn’t fit the paper work supplied. Contacted the supplier about the mix up and they referred me to Rosen. Basically I was on my own. Then checking the plastic sleeve on the box for the invoice and found I had been charged over $2500 US. Gulp ,I need a drink. Many phone calls later I have been sold Cessna visors from a later citation jet. These visor runs on a rail over head behind the windscreen. This rail fitted exactly on the 170 hat section on holes already there . The length had to trimmed slightly . These holes had plastic blanks fitted . Screwed the rails on . Every thing works .
I should have checked the invoice [electronically delivered] with the items delivered . But due to the COVID-19 ,it was delivered to to the business [airport] and me at home under lock down. And me being slack and lazy and doing other things let time slip by . The legality of it can be argued as these are removable and not a fixture .
User avatar
ghostflyer
 
Posts: 1162
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:06 am
Location: queensland ,australia

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby Karl Towle » Thu Apr 15, 2021 6:39 am

Well, after that fascinating story/tease, please post a picture or three!
User avatar
Karl Towle
 
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:02 pm

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby GAHorn » Thu Apr 15, 2021 10:23 am

ghostflyer wrote:... I have been sold Cessna visors from a later citation jet. These visor runs on a rail over head behind the windscreen. This rail fitted exactly on the 170 hat section on holes already there .... The legality of it can be argued as these are removable and not a fixture .


Perhaps they thought your 170 was RED. :twisted:

Don’t know about things “Down Under”... but generally, in the “lower 48”... if it’s actually bolted to the airframe it has to have a basis of approval and is not considered “loose equipment”. However a lot of leeway is given for Interior-Refurbishment items if no structural changes are made. Having them fit the existing mounting holes makes it nice.... only a logbook entry should normally suffice, IMO.

An example of this sort of logic was demonstrated during a “ramp check” I witnessed where the Inspector accepted a GPS installation as “loose equipment” because it was mounted using “velcro”.... and powered thru a cigar-lighter plug-in. If it had been permanently wired-into the aircraft electrical system it would have to be considered “installed equipment” instead ...(according to the Inspector.)
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons. ;)
User avatar
GAHorn
 
Posts: 19428
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:45 pm
Location: Spicewood (Austin), Texas

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby ghostflyer » Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:21 am

I think it was 3 screws into the plastic plugs for the attachment of the rail overhead. For the Rosen attachment. As I have argued in the past about “loose” equipment in the aircraft on ramp checks. Example of the woollen blanket on the back seat held in with the seat belt. Yes it goes with the aircraft part of the aircraft equipment. I have had this conversation on many a time about the portable Garmin GPS and my iPad attachment also. So far all good. I think if it doesnt affect airworthiness of the aircraft eg structural changes ,hindering line of sight ,danger to the occupants etc, it’s ok. I can take my iPad from aircraft to aircraft , so a log book entry isn’t really required.
User avatar
ghostflyer
 
Posts: 1162
Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:06 am
Location: queensland ,australia

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby DaveF » Sat May 01, 2021 11:02 pm

They may be a pain to install, but they sure work great. Better than I expected. The tint is just the right density and the swivel and slide actions are smooth and stay put. I'm very happy with them.
User avatar
DaveF
 
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:44 am
Location: Louisville CO

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby swixtt » Sat May 01, 2021 11:04 pm

Have pics of your install DaveF?
swixtt
 
Posts: 204
Joined: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:49 pm

Re: Rosen Sunvisors

Postby DaveF » Tue May 04, 2021 3:45 pm

This is before I peeled off the paper! I can get better pics of the mounting if you want.

BBA7E582-C0B7-4CE0-9784-64DCE7C2594A.jpeg

0C4B448D-8E08-4C34-A658-8376D1E12214.jpeg

C0B74ADB-CFE7-4627-9A84-E2A4EDE27B12.jpeg
User avatar
DaveF
 
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:44 am
Location: Louisville CO

Previous

Return to The Hangar

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests

cron