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Re: New 170B owner

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Though as I have a 56 with the later steering I don't have a bellcrank on my rudder do I - or I don't use it?? I'll look today.
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Re: New 170B owner

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Do they still make the glass cylinder for the gascolators?
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iowa wrote:Do they still make the glass cylinder for the gascolators?
They are like gold. Or at least the price of a replacement metal gascolator. :wink:

They can be found for a tractor. The key is finding a tractor with the same glass cylinder. I've yet to have that opportunity though I did run into a supplier of glass tractor gascolator cylinders once but didn't have the dimensions of the aircraft cylinder.
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Might look at this one:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BK_S655 ... lsrc=aw.ds&

Glass, 2 1/4" LONG x 2 1/8" OD
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The last thing I want at the low point in my fuel system is glass. I'm not for originality THAT much!
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DWood wrote:Might look at this one:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BK_S655 ... lsrc=aw.ds&

Glass, 2 1/4" LONG x 2 1/8" OD
That won't work. The one shown is a "jar" bowl style. Open on one end. The aircraft type we need is a tube open at each end.
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Presently my aircraft and tail wheel is on a jack and the jack is on a table so it’s easier to work on. The aircraft is nearly level attitude. I had a very heavy landing the other day. It was a very strong cross wind and felt the only way to get on the runway was dump it before I was sent side ways [weathercocked]. I miss judged the height as we must have been about 10 ft up. It was the most interesting landing I have ever done . [scary]
So I am pulling the steering hub apart to check on the W spring ,bearing, tire ,hub and regrease the whole lot . I am using aerospace “blue grease” that works just as well on my boat wheel bearings. I have used a lazer for alignment ,to check if the fuselage is twisted ,main gear correct etc. while my spring pak is a bit of a mix mash of springs it’s works well. I have measured from the center of the tail wheel axle to a bolt on the attach fitting to the fuselage when the aircraft was sitting on the tail wheel and then when all weight was off the tail wheel assembly. There was absolutely no difference in the measurement . So it must move in a arc. I do not think the dia of a circle of movement would change as the spring length is fixed . My spring tension is about 20lbs as this helps to stop any shimmy.
Well nothing was broken except my pride .
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Bruce Fenstermacher wrote:
DWood wrote:Might look at this one:

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BK_S655 ... lsrc=aw.ds&

Glass, 2 1/4" LONG x 2 1/8" OD
That won't work. The one shown is a "jar" bowl style. Open on one end. The aircraft type we need is a tube open at each end.
I don’t know…but it Might work for a 170 (ragwing):
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Re: New 170B owner

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Quite sure that will work for the 48. Diameter is correct and quickly measuring the height was within an 1/8 inch. I would try it.

I would look at this one as a possible glass for the 170A. I am not sure if the 170A is a Garwin.
170A pn 0511199-5 and 210 is 0511199-50 (might be fitting differences)

https://baspartsales.com/0511199-50-alt ... PXEALw_wcB
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For anyone truly disturbed over a glass gascolator ….It is not difficult to imagine cutting a short length of aluminum or stainless tubing of the correct diameter and length to replace glass. Personally, I like the glass cylinder because of it’s original purpose of enabling viewing the filter/screen.

Years ago a few FAA individual inspectors became overly-worried when accidents resulted in broken gascolators spilling fuel and contributing to post-crash fires. With some imaginative inspectors it became their worry that glass is somehow dangerous even in an intact system. 60 years and thousands of various models of airplanes with glass gascolator bowls and …how many failures (other than owners dropping them onto concrete during inspection/cleanings)…?

The “fire” fear is unwarranted IMO. If you have an engine compartment fire the glass will out-survive any hoses…. Besides, the pilot should shut off the fuel and close the Cabin Air valve which would take the gascolator out of the concern…. and 60 years of service hasn’t resulted in any problems other than replacing the one just dropped onto concrete.

PS: I have a “loaner” glass for Members. Pay the postage back/forth.
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