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Robert Harik
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Door handle

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Does any one know where I can find a door handle
Its a 55 170 B. Thanks ,Rob
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Re: Door handle

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THIS PARTICULAR MSG/POST HAS BEEN EDITED TO CORRECT A PREVIOUS ERROR. THIS NOW DIRECTS YOU TO THE CORRECT INTERIOR DOOR HANDLES FOR OUR AIRPLANES '53 and earlier. For '54 and later handles see this thread: http://www.cessna170.org/forums/viewtop ... 24&t=13473
INside or OUTside? Did you perform a search on this forum? The interior door-handle of the Cessna 170 is common to the interior handles of 1949 thru 1966 Chevy trucks.

http://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail/894 ... _4048.html
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http://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail/894 ... _4048.html
Their part number SHOULD be 4102254
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Re: Door handle

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Thanks gahorn,I always try to do a search before asking , but dont always do it correctly. I typed in doorhandle and of course got nothing. I orderd one from the site you postsed. I have a 66 chevy truck that has the same handles, but didnt know it till your post. I was tempted to take one :D
Thanks , Rob
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That's great, Robert!

The "search" routine can be less-than-helpful, and my comments are not meant to be critical. As you noted, computers require exact-matches. (You might be surprised to notice that some topics can hide merely because the original message-poster mis-spelled a critical word. I once located a brand-new $1600 part and paid $20 for it merely because it was mis-spelled/not properly identified, and no one else could find it. (Stall Waring instead of Stall Warning) and (Gascolater instead of Gascolator)
Whenever I notice, I correct mis-spellings in Subject-Lines to assist the search-routine.
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Re: Door handle

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So i bought these handles and went to put them on today but the splines are deep in the handle and the splines on the shaft are about a half in away from the end so i coulnt get them to catch. Any tips to get these to work?
Barry
1954 170B 0-300 N2815C
Win. 45-70 Govt., S&W .44 mag, Choc. lab
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hansen1954 wrote:So i bought these handles and went to put them on today but the splines are deep in the handle and the splines on the shaft are about a half in away from the end so i coulnt get them to catch. Any tips to get these to work?
&^%$#%$%$^&^%, BARRY! .. This is all MY FAULT!

I thought I'd corrected/edited an error created by a catalog change at these old-car catalogs...and MISSED this thread!

I've now CORRECTED the above links. If you return those handles and order these instead...you'll be thrilled. (or keep the ones youve got for spares for that 66 truck you have, and order these for a 40-48 Chevy truck)
What you want are their PN 4102254.


I apologize for the mis-direct. :oops:
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Re: Door handle

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Hey no problem, i can handle this
Barry
1954 170B 0-300 N2815C
Win. 45-70 Govt., S&W .44 mag, Choc. lab
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Re: Door handle

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I found a source for door handles for my '48. Looks just like the ones in the pic above. Bob's Antique Auto Parts, Gardena Ca. They are $6 each and the escutcheon is $3 each, Shipping was almost as much as the handles. Part # C424802 for handle and clip, C 4101 for the escutcheon. # 310-515-1089 :)
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Re: Door handle

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Hello All,

I took my ham fisted twenty somethings offsprings and one's boyfriend for a flight back to college (UF - in Gainesville, FL) today and one of the three managed to shear the passenger door handle. It is no longer possible to open the passenger door from the inside. The handle spins around 360 degrees. I can feel something but the door lock does not operate. Previously, the passenger door lock worked fine but the return spring would not return the handle to the original position. I had to manually, bring it down.

I have a 1959 C-172. Does it use the same door handle as this thread lists below? The door handles in my plane look similar but not exactly the same. Is there a likely cause of the symptom described above? I have searched the recent threads about getting the handle off and will open up the door next weekend. I guess this is the time to see about fixing the handle/door lock once and for all.

I also told the three (no one would admit being the one to break it) about using force if they don't understand what they are doing. But that is after the fact. Guess the fault is mine for not instructing them before they gorilla'd the handle.'

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Pete P.
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Bruce Fenstermacher
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Re: Door handle

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Pete, it could be the door handle has the splines chewed out. The handle shaft part for the 170B is 0511227 and the 172 part is 0511227-1. I'll bet the spline is the same and the handles listed will work.

How ever it may not be the handle. Connecting the handle shaft to the door latch is a flat metal connector bar. If the handle is twisted the wrong way this bar will become twisted and even rip in two. I know from personal experience. I had to flatten and reattach the two pieces of this bar left after someone "opened' my door. I had to use flat stock and flush rivets for the repair.

So don't buy a handle till you know for sure whats broke.
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Dwyer
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Re: Door handle

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Hello All,
I bought a set of door handles from Chevys of the 40s for my 1955 170B as per the part number published here. Unfortunately they are not the same as the ones on the plane. Would you know of a door handle like the one in the picture attached and where I could get one?
Thanks,
Dwyer B
PS: I had same problem as Pete B. With all new passengers I will be the one closing doors from now on!
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Re: Door handle

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Dwyer, I don't know what to tell you other than that handle you show looks a lot like the one in my old C-206 and it did indeed have a different spline.
The puzzle for me in your situation is, what modification has been made to your airplane that the 40-48 ( PN 2102254) doesn't fit. It SHOULD fit any of the 170 aircraft if they haven't been altered. You might check to see if that website can't match up to what you have, but first I'd closely examine your door and count the splines on the shaft and then compare the ones in your old and those new (2102254) ones.
Are you certain you installed it correctly with the C-clip? Can you show a picture of your door-spline/post/shaft (0511227)?

(Bruce may have guessed correctly.... It's possible your doors have been swapped out with a C-172.)
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Re: Door handle

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The door handles in the pictures (Dyers) on the top are found in '54 and up 170 and 180s. The bottom one on earlier years.

Serial 18003 to 18729 ('48 models) use handle #409978, their own clip and a different shaft. Serials 18730 to 26038 ('49 to '53) used the thin early handle #0511183 shown in the bottom of the picture. Serial 26039 and on ('54 and later) used #0511189. There are different clips and escutcheons for each handle as well but the shafts are the same from '49 to the end of production.

It's all in the different IPCs.
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Re: Door handle

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And you don't "have to" install excutcheons at all. (But it gives a more finished appearance.)
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Re: Door handle

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Hello Bruce, Aryana and gahorn,
I did a little more digging myself. I flew out to a small strip yesterday and looked at a few planes; a 1954 and 155 170B and also a 1956 172 - all had handles identical to mine, so I believe my doors are original. Would anyone happen to have a part number from a supplier of classic car parts for the handle that I have on my plane? My serial number is 26657.
Thanks for all your help!
Dwyer
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