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Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:15 pm
by cessna170bdriver
To keep the thread on securing the rudder from going too far off the rails I decided to start a new topic.
4583C wrote:
IA DPE wrote:
n2582d wrote:Now you just have to figure out how to convert the 170 from a control wheel to a stick. That would be a cool STC!
I find aircraft with Sticks much harder to enter/ egress and love the 170 for their ease of doing both.

Flying a Cub/ Super Cub/ Champ are fun but getting in/ out is gymnastics. I'm too old.

Agreed!! I did my flight review in a Super Cub last spring and it convinced me of the wisdom you expressed.
The 170, with the door sill at floor level, and a curved stick pivoted at the forward part of the floorboard wouldn’t be as difficult to enter as a tandem Piper where you have to step over a high sill and maneuver around a stick mounted close to the seat. My issue with a stick is that I would have to come up with a new place to mount my iPad. :)

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:54 pm
by TFA170
It sure would be a neat STC if it could be pulled off...I suspect it would be quite a lot of work to convert...still, I'd love to see it!!

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:06 pm
by FredL
They do have a conversion for the swift to install a stick, it does have gear mounted in the wing though instead of the fuselage. That might make a difference.

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:53 pm
by ghostflyer
I think it was at the Cody convention that on the flight line was a Cessna 150 aerobatic [tail wheel] with that 180 hp shoe horned in and it had seating in it with for and aft with dual control sticks fitted. I think it was red and white in color. I can’t not recall what category it was in . It was wild child .

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:53 pm
by cessna170bdriver
ghostflyer wrote:I think it was at the Cody convention that on the flight line was a Cessna 150 aerobatic [tail wheel] with that 180 hp shoe horned in and it had seating in it with for and aft with dual control sticks fitted. I think it was red and white in color. I can’t not recall what category it was in . It was wild child .
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Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:40 am
by ghostflyer
Well that proves it , my memory is going must be old age . I was wrong on color , engine type and just about everything . Now how did I get into this bar??

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:58 pm
by GAHorn
ghostflyer wrote:Well that proves it , my memory is going must be old age . I was wrong on color , engine type and just about everything . Now how did I get into this bar??
Being wrong on color is a tradition here for some green with envy. :lol:

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 5:59 pm
by bgiesbrecht
That is awesome! I'd love the 170 with a stick instead of yoke. Almost like a Broussard or Luscombe. Yes please!

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:52 pm
by FredL
Probably cheaper to buy an L-19 than convert a 170

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:01 am
by hilltop170
bgiesbrecht wrote:That is awesome! I'd love the 170 with a stick instead of yoke. Almost like a Broussard or Luscombe. Yes please!

Hey Bryan-
I think a simple stick could be attached to the tunnel with a U-joint and linkage arms connected to the existing T-bar yoke for pitch and clamp the roll linkage to the T-bar chain and just remove the control wheels. Then use the outside pedals for rudders and build a double-wide bench seat on the existing outside seat tracks for the front, leave the bench seat in back, and there you go! I’ll design it if you put it on your airplane! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:54 pm
by cessna170bdriver
hilltop170 wrote:...and build a double-wide bench seat on the existing outside seat tracks for the front, leave the bench seat in back, and there you go! I’ll design it if you put it on your airplane! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Don’t forget to put a hole in the seat between your legs to give you access to the fuel valve! :lol:

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:08 pm
by GAHorn
You can throw away the B-model placard warning against slipping with flaps 40 since you won’t be able to deploy them at all

Re: Control Sticks in a 170

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:18 pm
by bgiesbrecht
hilltop170 wrote:
bgiesbrecht wrote:That is awesome! I'd love the 170 with a stick instead of yoke. Almost like a Broussard or Luscombe. Yes please!

Hey Bryan-
I think a simple stick could be attached to the tunnel with a U-joint and linkage arms connected to the existing T-bar yoke for pitch and clamp the roll linkage to the T-bar chain and just remove the control wheels. Then use the outside pedals for rudders and build a double-wide bench seat on the existing outside seat tracks for the front, leave the bench seat in back, and there you go! I’ll design it if you put it on your airplane! :lol: :lol: :lol:
LOL! sounds perfect! haha