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Greetings from a new owner and a couple of fun items for you

Postby Cessnateur » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:09 am

Hello all, I just took delivery of my first airplane....a 1953 170B...today and thought I'd say hello.

The airplane is N170RK, serial 26053. I purchased it from a gentleman who has owned it for 41 years. He bought it from a friend of his who owned it for ten.

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I've got it based near Madison, WI and hope to get it up to Oshkosh this week...if I can find a CFI or someone with 25 hours of 170 time to fly with me, as I lack the necessary hours for my insurance at the moment. And frankly, I'd like to build proficiency with a CFI regardless.

I do some writing for Flying Magazine, and I recently wrote an article on the 170 that just came out in the current August 2021 issue:

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Bruce Fenstermacher was a tremendous help with some technical questions I had. I worked pretty hard on the piece, and I hope it does the airplane and the owners group justice.

As part of my research, I monitored the stats of every single 170 listing I could find since the beginning of April and calculated some averages:

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The most interesting parts are the average and the median listing prices...particularly when separated by subtype. I added the median values to omit the absurdly high or low outlying prices:

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As a reminder, this data was collected from any and all listings I could find since early April 2021. I scoured the web to find as many as possible. Craigslist, Facebook groups, Facebook Marketplace, Trade-a-Plane, ASO, Hangar 67, Controller, Barnstormers, etc. And I recorded the tail numbers to avoid including duplicate listings.

Anyway, I'm happy to finally be a member and look forward to learning as much as possible from the great community here.

- Jason McDowell
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Re: Greetings from a new owner and a couple of fun items for

Postby c170b53 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:41 am

Excellent, welcome to the association. I like that you know of a few places to look to find an aircraft, might be you next article. Good luck with your plane, you’re going to like it.
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Re: Greetings from a new owner and a couple of fun items for

Postby Bruce Fenstermacher » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:40 am

Jason, your serial number makes your plane a '54 model. It was probably sold in '53 and thus registered as that year. FAA records are notoriously wrong when it comes to the year of manufacture. Serial numbers mean everything when determining a model year, the year the aircraft was first registered with the FAA does not and quite often the first year of registration is what we incorrectly find in the data.
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Re: Greetings from a new owner and a couple of fun items for

Postby Bruce Fenstermacher » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:48 am

You mentioned removing the absurd prices from your list. I can't help but think I'm not alone to think there are quite a few absurd prices on your list that still remain. Prices have gone up so dramatically in the last year for aircraft.
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Re: Greetings from a new owner and a couple of fun items for

Postby ghostflyer » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:48 am

Job well done on the stats. They are very interesting . Plus you have a BLUE plane. They are the fastest 170,s. After a while you will realise the arguments in the club who has the fastest aircraft . Most blue owners will tell you the red aircraft are the slowest but the green ones are a little faster than the red ones .welcome to the organisation.
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Re: Greetings from a new owner and a couple of fun items for

Postby GAHorn » Tue Jul 20, 2021 12:18 pm

WELCOME! …. And Wonderful First Post!
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Re: Greetings from a new owner and a couple of fun items for

Postby Jim Collins » Tue Jul 20, 2021 2:57 pm

Jason,

Welcome to the 170's. I am a CFI with a 170B in Schaumburg IL. I can't help you with Oshkosh because I am flying there to, but if you can't find anybody locally, I can help you with training on Saturdays after Oshkosh as it is just a short flight for me to Madison.

Best of luck

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Re: Greetings from a new owner and a couple of fun items for

Postby IP076 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:20 pm

Congratulations Jason!

Glad I could participate in making it happen!

Also, that’s a sharp looking picture for the article! Must be two good folks flying it!
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Postby mmcmillan2 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:30 pm

Here is a list of instructors: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5593

Nice plane, blue flies the best!

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