Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

A place to relax and discuss flying topics.

Moderators: GAHorn, Karl Towle, Bruce Fenstermacher

Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby lowNslow » Wed Apr 27, 2022 6:52 pm

There back!
Looks interesting but wonder if they will make them available for our old birds.
https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/sen ... CAMPAIGNID%
Karl
'53 170B N3158B SN:25400
ASW-20BL
User avatar
lowNslow
 
Posts: 1526
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2002 4:20 pm
Location: Carmel, CA (KMRY)

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby bgiesbrecht » Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:31 pm

Would love to see this approved for O-300....
1953 170B
N1977C
s/n 26122
User avatar
bgiesbrecht
 
Posts: 93
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:51 pm
Location: KSNA

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby JSwift » Wed May 04, 2022 2:30 am

Me too!!!

Having choices on our 70 year old airplanes would be great. Any idea what this cost vs. for example $5k for a new McCaulley 8042 climb prop for the 8 bolt O300A engine?
N2594D, 1952 170B #20746
Near Enfield, CT
Let's go fly!
User avatar
JSwift
 
Posts: 55
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:01 am
Location: CT, 7B6

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby brianm » Wed May 04, 2022 2:55 am

JSwift wrote:Any idea what this cost vs. for example $5k for a new McCaulley 8042 climb prop for the 8 bolt O300A engine?

The Sensenich website lists the STC'd prop for $6350. $7085 including backplate and composite spinner.
Brian M
N2669V - '48
User avatar
brianm
 
Posts: 121
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:04 am
Location: Grayslake, IL

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby bgiesbrecht » Mon Jun 06, 2022 9:55 pm

brianm wrote:
JSwift wrote:Any idea what this cost vs. for example $5k for a new McCaulley 8042 climb prop for the 8 bolt O300A engine?

The Sensenich website lists the STC'd prop for $6350. $7085 including backplate and composite spinner.


To me that cost delta would be more than worth it.
1953 170B
N1977C
s/n 26122
User avatar
bgiesbrecht
 
Posts: 93
Joined: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:51 pm
Location: KSNA

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby eskflyer » Tue Jun 07, 2022 3:04 am

For those interested , please pm me @ either text or email . I can give more info offline. When the time is right I can put it all online. Just not now.

But If your interested please holler
eskflyer@yahoo.com
907-394-3579 text or call. In in AK so remember the time zones lol.
AA16, SHORTWING and SPAMCAN FLYER, JP
User avatar
eskflyer
 
Posts: 75
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:48 pm

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby dstates » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:58 am

I just hope if they are working on an STC they will do it for all 170 models and not just the B.
N1235D - 1951 170A - SN: 20118
User avatar
dstates
 
Posts: 434
Joined: Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:50 pm
Location: Geneseo, IL

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby eskflyer » Tue Jun 07, 2022 12:57 pm

I don’t think we will ever see a stc for our airplanes themselves. If anything it might be just for the particular engine. Example lycoming o360 180 hp. If the engine prop combo is stc’d then you get a field approval for your aircraft. I’m not speaking for sensenich but in my humble opinion I don’t see the o300 ,c145 8 bolt crank getting stc’d . The cost to do that is very prohibitive. Now let’s talk the o300D 6 bolt. I know of one using a adapter built by saber manufacturing. And using a 82” sensenich ground adjustable. Combo has a little over 300 hrs testing now. Vibration analysis done with a dynavibe. No bad harmonics from startup to 2950 rpm ever seen. That being said sensenich has not done their own vibration analysis for this combo. When we get the time we will be testing 80” and 78” blades . The prop pins that came with the prop for setting the blade angle / degree’s were ok . But we made more pins ourselves so we could set the prop in 1/4 degree in-cremates, And dialed in the prop to our satisfaction.
AA16, SHORTWING and SPAMCAN FLYER, JP
User avatar
eskflyer
 
Posts: 75
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:48 pm

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby Fishsticks » Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:31 pm

{Deleted]
Last edited by Fishsticks on Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:23 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Fishsticks
 
Posts: 17
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:14 pm

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby hilltop170 » Mon Sep 19, 2022 11:22 pm

George-
You might contact Sensenich and let them know all C-170 did, can, or do have O300 engines. Everyone seems to think the 170B is the only model.
Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
User avatar
hilltop170
 
Posts: 3467
Joined: Sat May 06, 2006 6:05 pm
Location: Retired in Alaska and the Texas hill country

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby c170b53 » Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:42 am

How much more than 76” could a 0-300 swing do you think ?
Jim McIntosh..
1953 C170B S/N 25656
02 K1200RS
User avatar
c170b53
 
Posts: 2454
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2002 8:01 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C.

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby Fishsticks » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:33 am

c170b53 wrote:How much more than 76” could a 0-300 swing do you think ?


I'm no expert but it seems like lots of people are running the 8042 under the Kenmore STC with good results. The 8042 is an 80" prop.
User avatar
Fishsticks
 
Posts: 17
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2022 12:14 pm

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby GAHorn » Tue Sep 20, 2022 12:48 pm

hilltop170 wrote:George-
You might contact Sensenich and let them know all C-170 did, can, or do have O300 engines. Everyone seems to think the 170B is the only model.


WILCO!

For those wondering about the prop blade length, it may be helpful to know that there exists regulation in that regard to prevent prop-stikes. Tricycle gear airplanes must be tested with flat nose tires and nose struts and still maintain a 7” ground clearance IIRC as do taildraggers with flat mains and most-nose-down/hard-landing demonstrations.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons. ;)
User avatar
GAHorn
 
Posts: 20516
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:45 pm
Location: Spicewood (Austin), Texas

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby c170b53 » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:43 pm

Yes but if it’s ground adjustable, going to coarse, at what point does the o-300 speed drop. Or at 53 pitch what is max rpm obtainable with 80” . Guess that’s the fine details in the STC :D
Jim McIntosh..
1953 C170B S/N 25656
02 K1200RS
User avatar
c170b53
 
Posts: 2454
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2002 8:01 pm
Location: Vancouver B.C.

Re: Sensenich’s Ground-Adjustable Props

Postby eskflyer » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:07 pm

we have tested the 82" on the o300D 6 bolt crank but had to have a prop hub adapter built "sabre manufacturing". we will be testing the 80" and 78" this winter. biggest problem just saying o300engines are the crankshaft / hubs. I do not see it being viuable on a 8 bolt crank. 6 bolt crank yes. I am back at work and do not have my spread sheet that we used for our testing so cant give you actual factual numbers that we came up with. Running the 82" prop is so much better than the seaplan 1A175SFC prop 80/43. whne i get home in a month I will try and get all the numbers and the 80" and 78" tested. I we did do vibration analysis of nour own using a dynavibe while running on the ground and while flying. did not see any issues at all.
AA16, SHORTWING and SPAMCAN FLYER, JP
User avatar
eskflyer
 
Posts: 75
Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:48 pm

Next

Return to The Pilot Lounge

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 12 guests