N170BM
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N170BM
Francis Cahoon sent me a picture of his " '54" model so Frank could see it. I'm posting it here as I found it interesting and bet a few might have some questions about it deserving it's own thread. Francis, I hope you don't mind.
I'll start it off by informing Francis this is not a '54 model. It is a '55 model serial 26631. Anybody else see anything out of the ordinary I didn't notice?
I'll start it off by informing Francis this is not a '54 model. It is a '55 model serial 26631. Anybody else see anything out of the ordinary I didn't notice?
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
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Re: N170BM
the beautiful round tail has been altered into a later straight tail.
Tim
Tim
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You called it
Tail N Tips
I am near a restaurant and the vertical reminds me of a porterhouse steak.
The picture seems to be of a very nice airplane. A very valuable ride.
Regards
Tail N Tips
I am near a restaurant and the vertical reminds me of a porterhouse steak.
The picture seems to be of a very nice airplane. A very valuable ride.
Regards
gradyb, '54 B N2890C
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Lycoming conversion with CS prop.
Dual puck brakes.
Tow hook.
I'm guessing someone spent money on the panel, too. It has three com antennas and a $1000 balanced loop VOR antenna.
Dual puck brakes.
Tow hook.
I'm guessing someone spent money on the panel, too. It has three com antennas and a $1000 balanced loop VOR antenna.
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Some years ago I met a fellow names Bob Dentice at a fly in in Porterville, CA, who had a C-170B with a C-175 tail grafted on to it just like the abopve airplane. He claimed it no longer stalled the tail causing the vicious nose down pitch on a maximum slip with the flaps full down.
Now that I go back and look again at the above picture of that airplane, it looks just like the one Dentice had. Same color and paint scheme. Did that maybe be the one that belonged to Bob Dentice? He told me about the helluva time he had getting it approved. He told me that it was finally approved by a retiring FAA friend of his.
Now that I go back and look again at the above picture of that airplane, it looks just like the one Dentice had. Same color and paint scheme. Did that maybe be the one that belonged to Bob Dentice? He told me about the helluva time he had getting it approved. He told me that it was finally approved by a retiring FAA friend of his.
Last edited by blueldr on Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:32 am, edited 1 time in total.
BL
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Francis/Bruce, thanks for posting the requested photo. This is the first C-175 tail feathers grafted onto another plane of any kind I have seen. Don't know what, if any, differences there might be in the dimensions between 175 & 172 tails. Except for the right hand cowling door I would not have know whether it was a 170, 172 or 175. I have heard that the straight tail has more rudder authority than the nice round tail rudder on 170's/195's/L-19's. Don't know if that is factual or rumor. I also have cautioned against doing a slip with the full 40 deg flap setting with the 172 tail feathers. I do not plan to become a test pilot to see if doing so can stall the horizontal/elevator.
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After looking at the photo I saw the cowl bumps for what I thought was the Avcon 180 conversion. I then researched the N number on the FAA database and saw that a O&VO-360 SER engine was used for the conversion. Was the vertical shaft O-360 included in any of the 180HP conversion STC's or was this a field approval? What are the differences between the regular O-360 and the O&VO-360 SER that was used primarily for helicopters? Just curious.
Steve McGreevy
N8293A '53 C170B
N8293A '53 C170B
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Those aren't madras tips, there Sportsman tips to match the Stol kit
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Bob Dentice had more ratings/certificates/modifications and fewer fingers than virtually anyone else I know. Is he still around?blueldr wrote:Some years ago I met a fellow names Bob Dentice at a fly in in Porterville, CA, who had a C-170B with a C-175 tail grafted on to it just like the abopve airplane. He claimed it no longer stalled the tail causing the vicious nose down pitch on a maximum slip with the flaps full down.
Now that I go back and look again at the above picture of that airplane, it looks just like the one Dentice had. Same color and paint scheme. Did that maybe be the one that belonged to Bob Dentice? He told me about the helluva time he had getting it approved. He told me that it was finally approved by a retiring FAA friend of his.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
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George,
You're sure right about Bob Dentice and his ratings, He had 'em all, kncluding parachute packer or whatever it's called. I haven't seen or heard anything of him in years and used to see him at various fly ins. That sure does look like his old airplane.
You're sure right about Bob Dentice and his ratings, He had 'em all, kncluding parachute packer or whatever it's called. I haven't seen or heard anything of him in years and used to see him at various fly ins. That sure does look like his old airplane.
BL
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FROM ANOTHER LINK: c170bm
March 13th, 2007, 08:22 PM
Having lost my medical, must sell N170BM Cantact me at N6D@AOL.COM for all the info on the airplane
with "170 for sale " in the topic of the E-Mail. Visit our web site http://home.earthlink.net/~n6d
listed on my POA c170bm profile .Selling for 50K with new annual. Aircraft is located in So Cal at EMT
March 13th, 2007, 08:22 PM
Having lost my medical, must sell N170BM Cantact me at N6D@AOL.COM for all the info on the airplane
with "170 for sale " in the topic of the E-Mail. Visit our web site http://home.earthlink.net/~n6d
listed on my POA c170bm profile .Selling for 50K with new annual. Aircraft is located in So Cal at EMT
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Is the bottom of the rudder missing or maybe a tail cone missing? It looks odd.
Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!