C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
Moderators: GAHorn, Karl Towle, Bruce Fenstermacher
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
The orginal color of these engines was NOT CONTINENTAL GOLD!
They were grey, with black accessories and cylinders.
Gold did not come into Continental until the 60s.
They were grey, with black accessories and cylinders.
Gold did not come into Continental until the 60s.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
Finally back at it again after a busy few weeks. Busines travel and bad weather have slowed me down a bit.
I had some bad news. My gears were rejected from too much wear. You do not want to know how much new gears cost. The starter gear will not be used because I am putting the SkyTech STC back on the engine.
I started work cleaning up the crank and rods today. I will have some more pictures soon.
I had some bad news. My gears were rejected from too much wear. You do not want to know how much new gears cost. The starter gear will not be used because I am putting the SkyTech STC back on the engine.
I started work cleaning up the crank and rods today. I will have some more pictures soon.
1952 170B
N8180A s/n 25032
N8180A s/n 25032
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
I've had only good experiences with Western Skyways.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
Ok. Here's a few more pictures.
The crankshaft seal on the C-145 is a split design so it goes on easy. No need to stretch it over the flange.
Everything needs to be clean and dry so we take a lot of time washing with solvent. Copious amounts of oil are used throughout. All the threads are lubricated with oil. We are using 50/50 STP and Mineral Oil for assembly.
The crankshaft seal on the C-145 is a split design so it goes on easy. No need to stretch it over the flange.
Everything needs to be clean and dry so we take a lot of time washing with solvent. Copious amounts of oil are used throughout. All the threads are lubricated with oil. We are using 50/50 STP and Mineral Oil for assembly.
1952 170B
N8180A s/n 25032
N8180A s/n 25032
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
I opted for new hydraulic lifters and tappets.
Through bolts get wire wheeled, chased and cleaned. Then the O-rings go on.
Through bolts get wire wheeled, chased and cleaned. Then the O-rings go on.
1952 170B
N8180A s/n 25032
N8180A s/n 25032
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
Here the case halves are prepped, decked and cleaned. Ready for threading. Some of these pictures are out of order. This is not meant to be a how to guide. Make sure to follow the Cont overhaul manual.
The tools of the trade for case threading. Hysol and silk thread. These have done a lot of engines.
The tools of the trade for case threading. Hysol and silk thread. These have done a lot of engines.
1952 170B
N8180A s/n 25032
N8180A s/n 25032
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
We decided to put this engine together horizontally as the manual suggests vs. upright on the engine stand. There are pros and cons to doing it either way. The C145 is a small engine and fairly easy to manhandle so we are doing it flat on the table.
Bearings are in and using a lot of oil everywhere.
Crank assembly gets laid in place.
Thrust bearings are installed and checked.
My CGR-30P showed up today as well.
Bearings are in and using a lot of oil everywhere.
Crank assembly gets laid in place.
Thrust bearings are installed and checked.
My CGR-30P showed up today as well.
1952 170B
N8180A s/n 25032
N8180A s/n 25032
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
+1 what Arish said, oh so interesting to watch and learn!
John E. Barrett
aka. Johneb
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aka. Johneb
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Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
Time tested techniques and materials being used here.
Continentals Pub M-0 Maintenance Manual, Standard Practices For Spark Ignited Engines is an interesting read. A mix of new chemicals and sealants being used. For example Loctite 30516 Gasket Sealant is used on the 2-4-6 side of the case flange with time honored silk thread while Loctite 515 Gasket Eliminator Flange Sealant is used on the other. BTW for those who are not engine builders the silk thread is not just any silk thread but CMI part 641543.
Last engine I did about 10 years ago prior to pub M-0, using Continental SIL-99-2B dated 3/29/99 Permatex Aviation Grade 3D and 641543 Silk Thread was used on the 2-4-6 case half and Loctite 515 on the other half.
Time flies, things change.
Continentals Pub M-0 Maintenance Manual, Standard Practices For Spark Ignited Engines is an interesting read. A mix of new chemicals and sealants being used. For example Loctite 30516 Gasket Sealant is used on the 2-4-6 side of the case flange with time honored silk thread while Loctite 515 Gasket Eliminator Flange Sealant is used on the other. BTW for those who are not engine builders the silk thread is not just any silk thread but CMI part 641543.
Last engine I did about 10 years ago prior to pub M-0, using Continental SIL-99-2B dated 3/29/99 Permatex Aviation Grade 3D and 641543 Silk Thread was used on the 2-4-6 case half and Loctite 515 on the other half.
Time flies, things change.
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
I really, really, really want one of those Electronic International engine computers. Hope you can do a second thread on that once you have it up and flying again.
Preston
1954 C170B "Sweet Caroline"
1954 C170B "Sweet Caroline"
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
Hi Preston,Pdogace wrote:I really, really, really want one of those Electronic International engine computers. Hope you can do a second thread on that once you have it up and flying again.
I will see what I can do. I installed one on a 182 recently and now I have mine and another one going into a Cardinal in the shop. I will take some pictures.
1952 170B
N8180A s/n 25032
N8180A s/n 25032
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
Thanks for the pics! I love freshly cut and oiled metal ... mmmm, I can smell it from here!
- sfarringer
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Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
I would guess that the through bolts have rolled threads. If so, chasing threads with a standard die would be a mistake on rolled threads, as it would create a stress riser by cutting into the root radius.nippaero wrote:Through bolts get wire wheeled, chased and cleaned. Then the O-rings go on.
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Ragwing S/N 18073
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
Someone had asked about the old gears and how bad they were worn. I have heard that a big source of metal in the oil on these engines if from the starter gears. I should mention that I am switching to a SkyTech starter. Not because of this, I had already bought the SkyTech before I torn down my motor.
1952 170B
N8180A s/n 25032
N8180A s/n 25032
Re: C-145-2H Engine Overhaul
The engine is back upright on the stand. I am waiting for a few more parts to arrive from Western Skyways before we can go much further. The cases are together again at least. Hopefully for a LONG time.
1952 170B
N8180A s/n 25032
N8180A s/n 25032