Sub Panel Assembly Question
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- GAHorn
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Kyle, as Miles suggests.... the requirement is for separate power sources for backup purposes ...(although if separate vacuum systems are used I believe that also qualifies.)
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.

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Kyle-
I have the standard T-bar control yoke, it has not been modified. My T/C is electric and just clears at full up elevator. If I remember correctly from 1978, I think I had to go to the T/C because the old turn & bank was too long for the lower center hole.
The blue knob is the electronic dimmer, I got tired of replacing rheostats and there are no dead spots in the adjustment.
If you're not going to put an original looking 8-hole panel cover back on over the upper panel, you might as well just fab a new panel of your own design. I used the old panel as a template for the general shape and to locate shock mount positions, etc then built it myself. Nowadays there are shops that will computer design, layout, cutout a perfect copy the first time, and powdercoat it for you at reasonable cost.
It's a good idea to redo the wiring while you're in there, as old as that stuff is a lot of it is brittle and cracked plus has been rubbing all that time and there could be a short just waiting to happen. I haven't looked behind your panel but I would bet you a beer there are some orphan wires back there that nobody could figure out where they went. There was such a mish-mash of fuses in my panel it just didn't make sense to keep them. Now I actually know what breaker protects what circuit and that they are all sized accurately.
As you are finding out, once you start a project like that it's hard to pick a stopping point. It's a good way to end up with a nice airplane though.
George and Miles-
You guys didn't even notice I had the key in my pocket! !! And by the time the dead stick routine is over the gyros have spun down, and all the press and temp gauges have gone to zero.
George-
If someone was foolish enough to try a maneuver like that at any altitude, not to mention 350', it probably wouldn't matter what you did with the rudders!!!!

I have the standard T-bar control yoke, it has not been modified. My T/C is electric and just clears at full up elevator. If I remember correctly from 1978, I think I had to go to the T/C because the old turn & bank was too long for the lower center hole.
The blue knob is the electronic dimmer, I got tired of replacing rheostats and there are no dead spots in the adjustment.
If you're not going to put an original looking 8-hole panel cover back on over the upper panel, you might as well just fab a new panel of your own design. I used the old panel as a template for the general shape and to locate shock mount positions, etc then built it myself. Nowadays there are shops that will computer design, layout, cutout a perfect copy the first time, and powdercoat it for you at reasonable cost.
It's a good idea to redo the wiring while you're in there, as old as that stuff is a lot of it is brittle and cracked plus has been rubbing all that time and there could be a short just waiting to happen. I haven't looked behind your panel but I would bet you a beer there are some orphan wires back there that nobody could figure out where they went. There was such a mish-mash of fuses in my panel it just didn't make sense to keep them. Now I actually know what breaker protects what circuit and that they are all sized accurately.
As you are finding out, once you start a project like that it's hard to pick a stopping point. It's a good way to end up with a nice airplane though.
George and Miles-
You guys didn't even notice I had the key in my pocket! !! And by the time the dead stick routine is over the gyros have spun down, and all the press and temp gauges have gone to zero.




George-
If someone was foolish enough to try a maneuver like that at any altitude, not to mention 350', it probably wouldn't matter what you did with the rudders!!!!




Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
- GAHorn
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After witnessing the best "aerodrome beat-up" I've ever seen at my place.... I no longer doubt you, Richard! All-ah-absolom, oh wondrus wun!hilltop170 wrote:....George-
If someone was foolish enough to try a maneuver like that at any altitude, not to mention 350', it probably wouldn't matter what you did with the rudders!!!!![]()
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'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.

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