Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
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- Brad Brady
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
And when you cannot find the 0552106-3 winterization plate there is always DUCT Tape ...Brad
Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
I use duct tape, and I remove it and clean up the adhesive right away when the airplane goes back in the hangar. No damage to paint yet (Imron). One of these days, I'm going to make a set of proper baffle plates after the Cessna design.Brad Brady wrote:And when you cannot find the 0552106-3 winterization plate there is always DUCT Tape ...Brad
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
John,jrenwick wrote:I use duct tape, and I remove it and clean up the adhesive right away when the airplane goes back in the hangar. No damage to paint yet (Imron). One of these days, I'm going to make a set of proper baffle plates after the Cessna design.Brad Brady wrote:And when you cannot find the 0552106-3 winterization plate there is always DUCT Tape ...Brad
My kinda tongue-in-cheek comment is because someone in the past had the proper winterization kit, but it fit so loosely that we had to keep it in place with Duct tape Just seemed funny to me using a very useful tool to hold a proper thing in place.....Seems redundant.....Brad
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
I bought the winter front from Spruce about 4 years ago. Its spendy for what you get but is the exact cessna part number fot the 170B. I'm always trying to cram 30hr days into 24 so it was easier to buy than build.
I don't know if my planes temp gauge is accurate or not. Measuring the oil or engine temp after landing and shutting down may or may not show what the temp is while flying at 100mph. Therefore, to check the engine and oil temp while in actual flying conditions, one should stand on the wing strut with a heat gun or turkey fryer temp probe.
When flying in the winter, I used to feel good when I shut the plane down and saw moisture dripping from the breather tube because then I knew the oil temp was hot enough to boil the water out. But that also means there is still moisture in there. Now when I shut the engine down, I like to see a drop or two, but know that the flight was long enough to get all the moisture out. I just assume that the oil temp gauge is wrong but want to see it rise to about the same spot every flight.
2cents worth
Bill
I don't know if my planes temp gauge is accurate or not. Measuring the oil or engine temp after landing and shutting down may or may not show what the temp is while flying at 100mph. Therefore, to check the engine and oil temp while in actual flying conditions, one should stand on the wing strut with a heat gun or turkey fryer temp probe.
When flying in the winter, I used to feel good when I shut the plane down and saw moisture dripping from the breather tube because then I knew the oil temp was hot enough to boil the water out. But that also means there is still moisture in there. Now when I shut the engine down, I like to see a drop or two, but know that the flight was long enough to get all the moisture out. I just assume that the oil temp gauge is wrong but want to see it rise to about the same spot every flight.
2cents worth
Bill
Flat Country Pilot
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54 C170B
Farm Field PVT
54 C170B
Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
FWIW, be careful using duct tape as an air flow reducer. I owned a C-140 years ago and tried the tape method and apparently blocked too much air as I had to make a quick return to the takeoff airport with a cockpit that was starting to fill with smoke! I just put up with cold feet after that!
Former Caretaker of N4410B '55 170B
s/n: 26754
s/n: 26754
Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
When I do this, I block the same area of the cowl opening that is covered by the Cessna winter baffles. I haven't had a problem yet.busav8or wrote:FWIW, be careful using duct tape as an air flow reducer. I owned a C-140 years ago and tried the tape method and apparently blocked too much air as I had to make a quick return to the takeoff airport with a cockpit that was starting to fill with smoke! I just put up with cold feet after that!
John
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
And be sure to leave the area just in front of the cabin heat scoop and carb heat scoop unobstructed.
Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
N9149A,
Keep in mind that the oil temperature bulb is immersed in the oil which is passing around it at a rather rapid rate, therefore the temperature of the surrounding engine structure is able to absorb heat from the oil touching it thus cooling the oil.
Keep in mind that the oil temperature bulb is immersed in the oil which is passing around it at a rather rapid rate, therefore the temperature of the surrounding engine structure is able to absorb heat from the oil touching it thus cooling the oil.
BL
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
I have been using duck tape when necessary, without any problems. I too would like to manufacture the plates rather than continue to use the tape. I have seen the parts manual depictions of the Winteration kits, however I have not seen anything that contains measurements - is there a diagram avaialble with measurements?
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
Fit's a '53 cowl...
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Corey
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
Corey
Can you post a picure of that on a plane, and show how it's latched on. What gauge of material?
W.
Can you post a picure of that on a plane, and show how it's latched on. What gauge of material?
W.
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
I don't know what gauge and I'm not at home. I'm sure you can get something close enough from the following pictures:W.J.Langholz wrote:Corey
Can you post a picure of that on a plane, and show how it's latched on. What gauge of material?
W.
Corey
'53 170B N3198A #25842
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'53 170B N3198A #25842
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
Have you reinforced the two forward horizontal "bars" of the upper nose bowl? They often crack on their own yet yours look very sound.
Jim McIntosh..
1953 C170B S/N 25656
02 K1200RS
1953 C170B S/N 25656
02 K1200RS
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I believe the left side is still stock with no repairs. The right side has cracked and been repaired a few times prior to my purchase 4 years ago. I do not know if a winter kit was ever on my plane before I bought it as I purchased the winter kit after I purchased the plane.c170b53 wrote:Have you reinforced the two forward horizontal "bars" of the upper nose bowl? They often crack on their own yet yours look very sound.
Corey
'53 170B N3198A #25842
Floats, Tundra Tires, and Skis
'53 170B N3198A #25842
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- aaronhunley
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Re: Winterization w/ STC'd cowl
I was wondering if anybody had a winter kit for a 48 or pictures for one. As for temps here in Indiana I think we are now stuck in the teens and I need to do something other than duct tape.
Thanks, Aaron
Thanks, Aaron
1948 170
N3815V
N3815V