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Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:08 pm
by ghostflyer
Yes ,I know I am on my soap box but I refuse to carry a extinguisher in the cabin of my aircraft . If you have a fire in a small cabin it's usually caused by a electrical fault and very rarely fuel . So if a fire breaks out kill all the electrical power or if necessary if a fuel fire shut the fuel off and get down ASAP? . I have had a few engine fires on start and blown most of them out and when we couldn't , a fire extinguisher from the outside was used . We left the aircraft in a big way then .

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:14 pm
by n2582d
Bruce Fenstermacher wrote:If you have AK7053-12 could you download it just so we have it. And while your at it since it seems you have a lot of these if you have any other instructions I'd like to see copies of them all in the library.
AK7053-12 has been placed together with SK210-176. I edited my previous entry to include a link.
Aryana wrote:Gary, post up the rest of all your goodies in the library! I don't know where you get em, but you always post some great documentation right on cue.
Many of the Service Bulletins and Service Newsletters I have placed in the Maintenance Library come from McCurtain Technology Group. They gave me written permission to copy some of this material which they have copyright to. The CD that I linked is loaded with some fascinating material. Plan on getting nothing done at home for several weeks if you buy the CD.

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:28 pm
by n2582d
ghostflyer wrote:Yes ,I know I am on my soap box but I refuse to carry a extinguisher in the cabin of my aircraft . If you have a fire in a small cabin it's usually caused by a electrical fault and very rarely fuel . So if a fire breaks out kill all the electrical power or if necessary if a fuel fire shut the fuel off and get down ASAP? . I have had a few engine fires on start and blown most of them out and when we couldn't , a fire extinguisher from the outside was used . We left the aircraft in a big way then .
Can I join you on that soap box? Before spending money on a fire extinguisher get rid of the old wiring with insulation falling off it. Replace it and all that makeshift automotive wiring behind the panel with the appropriate size tefzel wiring. Then replace all stiff old fuel hoses with new ones together with the rubber hoses connecting the overhead vent system. Finally replace that old copper oil pressure and fuel primer line. After all that is done you can order a fire extinguisher that you'll probably never need to use.

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:25 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
Thanks Gary. I was wondering where you were finding these.

Make not mistake. The fire extinguisher I just placed in our aircraft is not to fight an in flight fire. It is there to be handy should mine or perhaps a friends plane starts on fire while on the ground. And as I said it makes a convenient tool to knock someone out after I put them out.

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:07 am
by C170U2
I received the extinguisher in the mail today and went out to the hangar with it. It fits perfectly underneath the seat. I am installing it per the parts manual but on the inboard side of the pilot seat. I installing it there because it allows you to see it when you have the door open. If I am paying the penalty in weight I might as well be able to enjoy looking at it!! I don't really know why but I love the looks of this thing and I really think it adds something to the plane.

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:09 pm
by GAHorn
I want to see a video of it putting out a marshmallow on a fly-out camping trip! :lol:

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:56 am
by C170U2
All installed. Fits perfect and I actually understand why they put it where they did. The pilot can still reach around and grab it in flight if needed, and it is easily reachable on the ground if need be. All in all, I really like how it turned out. And.... now I have a great weapon to keep the kids in line
(or any other pax who get out of line). :lol:

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:17 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
Mike that is cool.

So Mike I'm trying to figure our what that seatbelt retract system is doing under the seat in that location?

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:35 am
by C170U2
I haven't hooked it back up since I removed the seat. After thinking about it, I am probably just going to remove it all together.

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:42 am
by C170U2
My exact thoughts. And besides, I'm used to seats flying backwards at inopportune times...I used to fly Herks.

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:43 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
If that is the secondary seat stop, it is not mounted in the correct place according to the way I remember the install instructions. Mine is mounted low on the inside of the back outside seat leg.

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:50 am
by C170U2
Hmmmmm.....it was installed at our fields Cessna service station by a gentleman who's work I really trust. Worked fine the way it was installed.

Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:31 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
OK, I implied the installation was wrong which was to strong a statement. Heck mine could be wrong. I've not reviewed the instructions recently but remember then being different depending on the style of seat. You and I have the same seat yet the installation of the reel is totally different. There may have been options available to the installer.

I did review the instructions verses my installation at the time partly because of how it was installed on my seat but mostly because I would inspect any work verses instructions for anything done on my plane. I found my installation matched the instructions within reason and yours is different which I find interesting not necessarily bad.

Now I'll have to make note of all the different Cessna Secondary Seat Stop installations I see to note the differences found. It's just me. :roll:

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Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:10 pm
by bigrenna
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Re: Fire Extinguisher

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 3:00 pm
by C170U2
Thanks for the heads up on the seatstop being installed wrong. I would have never known if not for you guys. This is why I like to do my own work on my airplane. I tend to obsesses about doing things right and do a lot of research before I lift a wrench. I'm gonna go by the service station today and let them know there install wasn't in accordance with the drawing.