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Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:14 am
by hilltop170
Ryan-
Yep, early 140 or 170 symmetrical gear, can't tell which. Thanks for the picture.

If they had 3 axle holes instead of 4 they could have been heavy 195 gear which were the same vintage.

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Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:28 am
by hilltop170
Aryana wrote:I forgot exactly which Cessna model they came from but my buddies Oshkosh Seaplane Grand Champion Spencer Aircar used Cessna gear legs on its retractable undercarriage.

They just rotate up and out of the way of the water.
Arash-
Those look like L-19 gear legs, longer than 170, 180, or 185 gear legs with skinny-er ankles.

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:41 am
by cfzxo
I would agree with Richard in that the stiffer 180 gear is better for the type of flying that some of us do. the taller stance for prop clearance also helps. The taller stance look is not anything that I personally think is that important. IMO

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:32 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
In Richards picture from the left the first 4 gear are later 170 lady legs. I can not tell the two farthest to the right. In Ryans picture is a set of later early gear. I think they are later gear because of the 2 dimples in them. The earliest gear and 140 gear had a hole drilled through in the middle. The next gear only had a dimple where this hole once was. And then the type with two dimples. I'm sure about the first two types, the third with two dimples I believe to be correct but my memory is fuzzy on them.

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:07 am
by GAHorn
"To each, one's own ca-ca smells sweet. But do not be fooled by this." - Forrest Gump

The 180/185 gear on a 170 does not look good. At all. They look WRONG!

Unless you happen to own them.

That's the truth.

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An Opinion:
Early 170 gear are fine.... but they require better pilot technique for wheel-landings than the later "lady legs" which have a stiffer spring-rate.
Many pilots like the later gear because they have poor technique, and that is also why some pilots like the 180/185 gear also,.... because they have
poor technique or are incapable or unwilling to learn how to operate with them.

The 180/185 gear weighs more than original legs, but they do provide more prop-tip ground-clearance and may be useful on very rough, unimproved fields where prop-damage is to be avoided.

Otherwise, in my opinion, they are ugly hermaphrodites and odd. I would rather have an Isetta.

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:28 am
by N2625U

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:11 am
by bagarre
gahorn wrote:"To each, one's own ca-ca smells sweet. But do not be fooled by this." - Forrest Gump

The 180/185 gear on a 170 does not look good. At all. They look WRONG!

Unless you happen to own them.

That's the truth.

=============

An Opinion:
Early 170 gear are fine.... but they require better pilot technique for wheel-landings than the later "lady legs" which have a stiffer spring-rate.
Many pilots like the later gear because they have poor technique, and that is also why some pilots like the 180/185 gear also,.... because they have
poor technique or are incapable or unwilling to learn how to operate with them.

The 180/185 gear weighs more than original legs, but they do provide more prop-tip ground-clearance and may be useful on very rough, unimproved fields where prop-damage is to be avoided.

Otherwise, in my opinion, they are ugly hermaphrodites and odd. I would rather have an Isetta.

In that case, don't put them on your airplane.
Oh, and Forrest Gump never said that - check your source.

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:26 pm
by GAHorn
It's a direct quote from a book given to me entitled, "Forrest Gump Speaks" years ago.

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:16 am
by marathonrunner
If it is written in a book it must be true

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:02 am
by GAHorn
It's truly written in the book I have.

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:51 pm
by canav8
Installed 180 gear on 13D. I tried to use the shims that I had on there but I noticed that using them didn't even come close to shimming it to the book. Anybody have any shims laying around collecting dust? Doug

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:49 pm
by Ryan Smith
canav8 wrote:Installed 180 gear on 13D. I tried to use the shims that I had on there but I noticed that using them didn't even come close to shimming it to the book. Anybody have any shims laying around collecting dust? Doug
Are they the ones that shim at the axle?

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:00 pm
by canav8
Sorry. Yes these are axle shims I am looking for and not the gear to fuselage shims.
Part numbers
0541111-2,
0441139-5,
and 0441139-6

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:06 pm
by Ryan Smith
I've got some. Will look at PNs when I get home.

Re: Installed 180 Landing Gear

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:58 pm
by ghostflyer
Please be aware the gearbox to fuselage shims do have a effect on gear alignment also. If you have a excessive axle to gear leg shims then look at the gearbox to fuselage shims also. These are sometimes called wedges.not much in the manuals about this .