Javelin and Flint?

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Chris Christensen
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Post by Chris Christensen »

Don't forget, there are the Delair otpions.
Delair sells STCs for extending the original tanks either one rib bay outward, or two rib bays outward. you get either 15 or 30 gallons extra.
The nice thing is that you do not have to run any wires, do not have to switch tanks to pump,
no fuel in the rear cabin behind the pilot.
There is no change in fuel management from the original since the set up remains the same, only larger.
Only difference for me, was to fill the tanks one gallon at a time, so I could make a set of new Guage "legends", since you can end up with the wing guages in the red while you still have several hours of fuel.
Seems the simplest to me.
Besides dealing with Harry is one of the better aviation educations ya can get.
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Post by GAHorn »

The 1/4 full, red "no take off" zone should still be applicable regardless of the increased capacity of the tanks. (Fuel-surge issues are unchanged. That is why the 10 gal increase in C-175 tanks also suffer an increase of 10 gals of unuseable fuel.)
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Post by jrenwick »

gahorn wrote:The 1/4 full, red "no take off" zone should still be applicable regardless of the increased capacity of the tanks. (Fuel-surge issues are unchanged. That is why the 10 gal increase in C-175 tanks also suffer an increase of 10 gals of unuseable fuel.)
George,

What's the fuel-surge issue you're referring to? I haven't heard of it.

John
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aux tanks

Post by jon s blocker »

Since there seems to be a paranoia about having the Javelin aux tank in the cockpit, behind the back seat, How many accidents or injuries have been specifically attributed to the Javelin tank? I guess if I had heard of specific incidences of failures or injury I might not have put mine in, but being the eternal optimist that I am :D, I don't feel a great concern. I guess I don't feel like this is "stacking the deck", but I guess you never know. Jon
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Post by GAHorn »

There are no issues of safety with regard to the Javelin tank as long as no leaks occur. (Certainly no greater dangers than the fuel distribution or overhead fuel tank/vent system already in the fleet by design.) I'd not be concerned about the Javelin tank. I just wish O&N would include the 170 in their STC for their copy-cat system.
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Post by N3243A »

Harold Holiman wrote:Shawn,

I know they do it all the time in Alaska, but are you really comfortable flying with a couple fo five gallon cans of gasoline live in the cabin with you or you and your family?

Harold
Harold, Often times you have no choice but to do this up here. If your bush destination (read 0 fuel availability) is any further than 1.75-2.0 hours one way, carrying jugs is simply a must. As Shawn pointed out you must choose top quality jugs which absolutely seal. Any jug which has even the slightest leak is a no go. I have 2 dedicated 6 gallon jugs which do nothing but carry avgas and are stored indoors. They actually carry 6.5 gallons so the two of them are 13 extra gallons or an hour and half more range. This really takes the sting out of a long range trip. To use them safely I have a special hose setup using a copper pipe and bonding wire to minimize the static electricity hazard.

My 2 cents, Bruce
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Post by Harold Holiman »

George,

I always felt as you do that the safety issue of a properly installed Javlin tank vs overhead wing tanks and piping, vs a tank over your lap as in a J-3 or Champ is about the same. Also, fuel management was never a problem to me with the Javlin.

Harold H
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