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Re: Weight & Balance

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:49 am
by grwmo
If you add weight in the baggage/tail area to move the cg, does this make the tail wheel heavy. What should the tail wheel weigh on the typical 170?

Re: Weight & Balance

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:29 pm
by GAHorn
grwmo wrote:If you add weight in the baggage/tail area to move the cg, does this make the tail wheel heavy. What should the tail wheel weigh on the typical 170?
The tail wheel has it's own weight (described in the Type certificate and dependent upon which model tailwheel you are discussing.) Baggage compartment contents would not affect the actual weight of the tailwheel itself.
If you slid a scale beneath the tailwheel of a 170 you would likely find about 110-150 lbs would read on the scale depending on what was loaded/unloaded.

Re: Weight & Balance

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:36 am
by grwmo
My reference to tail wheel weight referred to the weight on the tail wheel amd not the weight if the actual tail wheel. When weighed level and empty the weight on the tail wheel was 146lb. I weighed it down on the ground with fuel and the weight was 195lb. Although it seems to take a little bit to get the tail up on take-off it is almost impossible to get the tail down for a 3 point landing. It seems that the tail would settle down but it really likes to land on the main gears. Maybe no flaps would let the tail down.

Re: Weight & Balance

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:46 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
146 is a bit on the tail heavy side than most. I wouldn't worry about it. To get the tail down in a 3 point fly slower.

Re: Weight & Balance

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:54 am
by johneeb
Bruce Fenstermacher wrote:146 is a bit on the tail heavy side than most. I wouldn't worry about it. To get the tail down in a 3 point fly slower.
Bruce,
Run 146 tail wheel weight through your Weight and Balance calculator, when I do a quick and dirty check I get 47.4 inches 1 inch past the rear limit. I would take an empty weight of 1333 lbs. to get to 46.4 inches. It would see really hard to put any fuel, passengers or weight in the baggage area.