Question about Tail wheel assembly
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Question about Tail wheel assembly
I'm doing an annual inspection on my 170A, I disassembled the tail wheel bracket to replaced the U bolt and the channel 0510000-31 and after reassembly the steering chains are to long, what did I do wrong?
Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
Look at your leafspring stack. You've allowed it to shift forward and is no longer properly held by the bolt at the forward end of the leafsprings.
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Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
Is this a test?
Notice how bolt 2 goes through top plate 8 inside bushing 5 then through the mount in part 1. It sets and holds the springs relative to the mount. You couldn't have this bolt installed correctly. And while your at it you also don't have the six bolts (19) and nuts installed holding the top plate on. But I'll assume this picture is take of a ruff fit assembly.
Notice how bolt 2 goes through top plate 8 inside bushing 5 then through the mount in part 1. It sets and holds the springs relative to the mount. You couldn't have this bolt installed correctly. And while your at it you also don't have the six bolts (19) and nuts installed holding the top plate on. But I'll assume this picture is take of a ruff fit assembly.
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Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
The picture where the chains are slack may very well be the correct spring location.
The picture where the chains are tight looks like the spring is way too far back.
(I think it is a test, too.)
The picture where the chains are tight looks like the spring is way too far back.
(I think it is a test, too.)
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Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
You have it installed correctly now. Lucky you found the problem before you damaged a plane
Del Lehmann
Mena, Arkansas
Mena, Arkansas
Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
Also, make sure you install part number 16 in Bruce's diagram. I think it's called a chain guard. Search the forum for "Bent Steering Arm" to see why it's an important item.
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Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
You are correct. I assumed the picture with the chains taunt was that of proper parts properly assembled. If it was not, that might explain why when proper parts are assembled properly, the chains adjusted for the former improper install would be to long.sfarringer wrote:The picture where the chains are slack may very well be the correct spring location.
The picture where the chains are tight looks like the spring is way too far back.
(I think it is a test, too.)
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Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
When I took my 170 to Del Lehman for restoration, he found my tailwheel with the same condition. The leaf springs were just butting up against the retainer bolt and the only thing holding the whole assembly in place was the tailwheel coil springs and chains. We had flown the plane from Alaska to Texas and around Texas for several months. Talk about lucky!
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1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
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Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
Where is the source document for Bruce picture.?
I have a Cessna Service Manual 100 Series 1962 and prior . Not real helpful for C170.
Regards
I have a Cessna Service Manual 100 Series 1962 and prior . Not real helpful for C170.
Regards
gradyb, '54 B N2890C
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Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
George/Bruce - do I recall correctly there was more information in a forum here about the bracket kit SK70A52-4? And/or a discount for club members? Annual this year found me need to make the replacement.
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The 170B parts catalogMoonlightVFR wrote:Where is the source document for Bruce picture.?
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That is correct. The Assoc'n has all the necessary documentation and a nice discount for the entire kit for it's Members. Join up!Romeo Tango wrote:George/Bruce - do I recall correctly there was more information in a forum here about the bracket kit SK70A52-4? And/or a discount for club members? Annual this year found me need to make the replacement.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: Question about Tail wheel assembly
Thanks everyone for all the help! This makes the most sense that it was not installed right previously, just glad it's right nowwingnut wrote:You have it installed correctly now. Lucky you found the problem before you damaged a plane
So much good help in this group, thanks again