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170B float drawings

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 3:14 pm
by krill
Can anyone provide a source for Cessna 170B float install drawings. Actually looking for a list of parts needed to add a float kit to a 170B. Thanks

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:10 pm
by minton
170 IPC has all of the parts outlined as well as the Cessna drawing part number.

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:26 am
by krill
thank you for that response, I assume that IPC has something to do with a Parts Catalogue.

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 1:24 am
by lowNslow
PDF version of the parts manual is available here: http://www.micro-tools.com/pdf/cessna/170b_pm.pdf

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:48 am
by GAHorn
It's NOT a parts "manual".

It's an "Illustrated Parts Catalog"... for the purpose of identifying parts you might wish to purchase. (Do no consider it a "manual" of assembly or maintenance of any authorization whatsoever. It has numerous errors and omissions.)

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:09 am
by lowNslow
Well, excuuuuuussssssse me!!

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:54 am
by cverdoljak
Float kit drawings do not exist, I installed the parts in mine last winter, the best thing is to go look at one with floats and measure. The parts book is only helpful for part numbers. I can help you if you need it.

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:18 am
by krill
I'll take all the help I can get. I know it's not an easy bolt on job. I've been quoted $3500.00 plus parts to do the job in Fairbanks which seems reasonable since I'm already up in Ak part of the year. Just have to find the right parts without breaking the bank. I have a Del-Air baggage door installed and don't know if that would affect anything.

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:44 pm
by minton
Call me. I've installed many and can get you the information you need.

John 907-345-9829

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:49 pm
by GAHorn
lowNslow wrote:Well, excuuuuuussssssse me!!

I'm hopefully taking that response as a humorous one... I didn't mean to seem critical.
Ever since I've read several fatal accident reports which likely can be traced to someone using the catalog as a manual, I've taken it on as a personal crusade to erase anyone's unintentional use of the catalog as "data".

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:33 am
by cfzxo
Hi George, The comment that float kit drawing do not exist seems rather strange. I recall quite some time ago sending you a copy of the float kit drawing that I had purchased from cessna when I did my install. They were for my 55 170B sn 26509 but would work for any B model. You may still have a copy or forwarded them to the Association. I though that I still had a copy of them here but can't seem to locate them. Maybe they went with the floats when I sold them. :oops:
Bill

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:10 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
Float kit drawings do exist as well as other Cessna drawings that are plainly marked as property of Cessna with a copyright. As these drawings are marked plainly the Association has a difficult time freely distributing them in such an open forum. That does not mean information contained on them is not shared with members.

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:09 pm
by minton
Bruce,

You know that Cessna is in somewhat of a corner as the TCDS contains float approval and the IPC contains part references. How they can claim that it as proprietary information stumps me. I do know if you go to buy it from them they ding you $350.00 or so.
Keep up the good work and do share the info when you can.

John

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:03 am
by Lopez
krill wrote:Can anyone provide a source for Cessna 170B float install drawings. Actually looking for a list of parts needed to add a float kit to a 170B. Thanks
Email me at aeropodinc@gmail.com, I have no concerns about Cessna chasing me down for proprietary information on an airplane they haven't built for 50+ years.

Re: 170B float drawings

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 3:22 pm
by lowNslow
gahorn wrote:
I'm hopefully taking that response as a humorous one... I didn't mean to seem critical.
Ever since I've read several fatal accident reports which likely can be traced to someone using the catalog as a manual, I've taken it on as a personal crusade to erase anyone's unintentional use of the catalog as "data".
No problem here George, just being a smart ass. However, I would point out that many good mechanics on this forum (including you) HAVE used the IPC as a reference because there is not much specific 170 information out there. You have to glean what you can from the "Cessna 100 series Service Manual" the owners manual and the TCDS. On an airplane this old it is to be expected that sometimes you have to be creatively interpretive.