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Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 6:21 am
by ghostflyer
Today I was given a sticker that’s Least about 20 years old [looks that way],and the numbers on the side of the aircraft on the sticker are very plain . I have looked at the associations on line emblem but I can’t see them very clearly. So my question is does this aircraft exist and who owns it? The numbers are N1969W.

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:45 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
The registration number does exist. It is the registration for a 1973 Beech B19, owned by a club in Meadville, PA.

It was never to the best of my knowledge a registration for a Cessna 170. 1969 is the year the TIC170A was founded. Of course the N is the US registration prefix. Why the registration ends with a W was probably lost when Cleo Bickford passed away. But perhaps someone knows.

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:12 am
by 4583C
The “W” is representative of the initial convention held in Wichita, KS.

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:26 pm
by bsdunek
Yep, year 1969 in Wichita. Hence, N1969W

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 4:08 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
I knew that. 8O Cleo will probably through a bolt of lightning my way for forgetting such detail. Glad a few others didn't forget.

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:36 pm
by dstates
I'm somewhat of a newbie to the TIC170A, but I remembered reading this in The 170 Book.
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Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:39 am
by ghostflyer
Thank you,for your replies and information. Very intriguing.

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:12 am
by cessna170bdriver
I seem to remember a convention host who changed that N+number on his convention swag, and Cleo got quite upset about it. I remember him telling me that every single word of the name “The International Cessna 170 Association” (including “The”) was discussed at length in meetings at that first convention.

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:28 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
Yes, I heard the same story from Cleo. I think many of us have who served on the board. Usually after a suggestion of change of some sort was needed, specially anything that had to do with tradition. And in Cleo's book and many others it seemed, nearly everything was a tradition.

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:20 pm
by GAHorn
I recall Cleo retelling that story as well. The Assoc’n Logo is rumored to be copyrighted but I don’t know that anyone has attempted any enforcement of that, nor have I ever seen the copyright-symbol displayed anywhere. If it were, Bruce (and everyone else who uses it on business card, image, etc. would need a board resolution to use it.)

Re: Numbers on the aircraft on our emblem

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:10 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
GAHorn wrote:I recall Cleo retelling that story as well. The Assoc’n Logo is rumored to be copyrighted but I don’t know that anyone has attempted any enforcement of that, nor have I ever seen the copyright-symbol displayed anywhere. If it were, Bruce (and everyone else who uses it on business card, image, etc. would need a board resolution to use it.)
I'm simply standing in front of the original logo that was placed at the forum by TIC170. :wink: