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Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:52 am
by Theodoro
Hello everyone,

I’m a happy new owner of a C170A and a new member of TIC170A. I’m interested in knowing more about the history of my new (to me) aircraft, like it’s original colours and paintschemes, previous owners and pilots and any other information you could have about it. It’s a 1951 (or 1950, I’m not sure) C170A, serial number 19833, and the N-number was N5774C until 4/29/1955, when it was exported to Brazil.

Thank you very much,

Theodoro

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:42 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
Theodoro, by serial number your 170A is a 1950 model, but it is very close to the end of the production year. We are not certain exactly what serial number was the change over to the 51 model but all indication are that it was serial 19850.

As for the color scheme, look here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=9362
Colors where either the red we have pictured or a metalic green

If you still have the original instrument panel with the piano keys and plexi glass, the color behind the plexi will tell us what color your airplane was. If it is redish you plane was red, if a blueish color your plane was green.

Welcome to the Association.

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:44 pm
by GAHorn
WELCOME, Theodoro!
According to a Google Search your airplane was mfr’d/certificated in March of 1951 and owned by only one owner until exported to Brazil.
That owner was a leasing company in San Francisco: If you have the original logbooks, there may be information in them useful to you such as flight history and maintenance records that may reveal locations visited and perhaps names of people involved.
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Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:06 am
by Theodoro
Thank you very much for your help and warm welcome and thoughtful answers. I’ll certainly look for the original logbooks, GAHorn. I’m looking for more information about the Dascomp Aircraft Sales, but whithout much success. So far, I've only found out that this is a company that apparently exported several planes to Latin America...

Bruce, the panel of my Cessna is still as original as possible and it has those beautiful piano keys and the redish (orange, maybe) plexi glass, so it’s a red one. Loved to know that, thank you! I loved to see the exact color scheme, also. I would love to bring it back to its original color and pattern. Today it is painted white with a single blue band. Wonderful, no doubt, but there is nothing quite as beautiful as the original paint scheme. I don't know if it would be advisable to return the fuselage to polished metal after painted, however...

Another thing that makes these planes really beautiful are the original wheel pants, which are very hard to find - at least here in Brazil. Is it possible to find them in the US or order new ones?

Thank you so much and wish you both good flights.

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:15 am
by GAHorn
Occasionally original metal wheel pants are sold by owners who don’t use them. The mounting plates are unique to the 120/140/70 aircraft so if you find the pants get the plates also.

There are after-market wheel pants sold which are made of fiberglass or carbon fiber that resemble the originals.

While not specifically approved for the 170, these are applicable to the 172 and should be capable of being fitted. The cost is still quite high, about $1300 plus shipping for a pair. https://www.knots2u.net/fiberglass-repl ... gf0541223/

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:14 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
GAHorn wrote:WELCOME, Theodoro!
According to a Google Search your airplane was mfr’d/certificated in March of 1951
Remember, Google will only find the date the FAA has when it was first certified. This is usually not reliable at all for telling what model year your airplane actually is. This is because airplanes were built and sat in storage without being certified, sometimes for several months.

As I stated, the exact change over serial from 1950 model to 1951 is not found in official documents. However I've spent many hours studying serial number records and the parts manual for changes in parts and all indications lead to serial 1985o as being the first 1951 model. Yours being serial 19833 isn't close enough to 19850 that I feel it is in question. It is a 1950 model.

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:00 am
by c170b53
Theodoro, welcome to the club, lets see a pic of your plane.

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:25 pm
by Theodoro
Thank you very much, GAHorn.

I tried to upload a picture of my plane, Jim, but it seems to heavy - I don't know why. The bird is currently under maintenance right now and I took the opportunity to add some personal touches to the painting. When it's done, I'll certainly try to upload a picture here.

It's a joy to be part of this club, folks.

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:57 pm
by IA DPE
Theodoro:

One of the limitations of our current Message Board is it can’t accept large files, such as pictures. *Most of the time* if you email the picture to yourself, your email applications will “downsize it” enough that it then can be uploaded to the Message Board. YMMV :wink:

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 6:03 pm
by Theodoro
I already posted it in the photo group, but I think it's worth replicating here. Here's my C170A, folks.

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:35 am
by c170b53
Very cool T, enjoy it

Re: Greetings from Brazil

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 3:48 pm
by GAHorn
That is one of the most unusual custom paint schemes I’ve ever seen on a 170. WELCOME! (our son just returned from Brazil, having spent a couple weeks vacationing on Fernando de Noronha.)