The International Cessna^® 170 Association

Has anyone been recieving TCP yet from Spruce? I'm on the list for July 7th. Wanted to know if this will hold true?

Good question. I have been "on the list" since JAN 04 and have heard several to-be-shipped dates but so far no cigar.

I bought my TCP from Sacramento Sky Ranch. Back in January they had quite a few gallon cans in the store.

http://www.sacskyranch.com/order.htm

Phone: (916) 421-7672 Fax: (916) 421-5719

Hours: 8:00 am to 4:30 pm pacific time Monday thru Friday

Toll Free orders only from U.S. 800-433-3564

Mail: Sacramento Sky Ranch Inc.
PO BOX 22610 * 6622 Freeport Blvd.
Sacramento, CA. 95822
Email John @sacskyranch.com

I just tied to buy some TCP from SacSkyranch, and John Schwaner
told me even quarts of the stuff couldn't be shipped anymore (???).

Where/how are we supposed to get this stuff if you can't ship it?

I haven't checked everywhere locally, but the usual places
(relatively close to me) said they don't stock it.

I'll be in LA in a couple of weeks, and thought I'd swing by
Aircraft Spruce to pick up a gallon in person, but then the
spector of getting the crap home on the tube (airliner) raises
it's ugly head....

I visited the Alcor TCP company in San Antonio a few months ago and was briefed by them on their new packaging and availability. The new packaging was an idea I gave them two years ago when (hating their messy large suction-hyperdermic method) I poured my TCP out of the metal can and into a fuel "stabilizer" plastic bottle which had a small reservoir marked in ounces, allowing one to squeeze the bottle and dispense the proper amount of product in accordance with the mixing instructions. I visited with the company president Mike Hundere and told him my solution, and he followed thru with a packaging company to design their new container. (Sure enough, it's very similar to the "Stabil" bottle I showed him.)
This new packaging is supposed to address the past problems of hazardous shipping restrictions, so those problems are supposed to go away.
As for why folks are having difficulty getting product now, I don't know. I was led to believe back in March that the issues of distribution should also soon be solved.

When I was stuck at skyacres 44N with a stuck exhuast valve ( story later ) I noticed they had the 1 quart plastic bottles of TCP like the one George mentioned. So if your in the hudson valley region of NY stop in there, they had several quarts on the counter.

After a stuck exhaust valve a year or so ago I started using TCP. The exhaust stacks have a nice chalky color to them and no stuck valves so far.
My question is: Where can I get a refillable squeeze bottle. It's a double neck bottle like this I found that Spruce has Decalin fuel additive in. But I don't know if I want to use Decalin.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/ap/ ... tives.html

A large sized bottle very similar to the TCP bottle is what "Stabil" is sold in. The problem is some plastic bottles is that their recipie of plastic may not be compatible with toluene (the carrier agent of TCP). My Stabil bottle worked very nicely for the two years it took Alcor to complete plans for their own bottle. (I still don't like their bottle...their neck is too short to avoid spillage when dispensing it. The Stabil bottle is better.)
Decalin leads one to believe it's the same as TCP. The question I have is, if it's the same, and since it costs the same, yet does not have FAA approval for use in airplanes..... why would anyone use it?

FIRST…………….I’m not affiliated with Decalin in any way. The chemist who “invented” Decalin is a Glastar builder as I am. He is also running an Eggenfellner Subaru engine, as I am, (I’m not flying yet). He “invented” Decalin to scavenge the lead from 100-LL so it would be usable in the Subaru when mo-gas was unavailable.

As George says…….it isn’t approved for certified airplanes, however I’ve been using it is my 180hp Lyc. C-170 for three years and I believe my plugs are much cleaner at annual than before I was using it.

YMMV…………….Buck, Galena, AK