The International Cessna^® 170 Association

Where would I go to get a new flap handle decal? The handle on my '53 model is looking pretty bad and could use a new coat of paint, but it has also been modified with the 10 degree notch so I need a decal from a later model 170B.

Try a Cessna dealer. Some of the decals Cessna sells are reasonably priced (a few bucks), others are way over priced (like $30) The part # should be in the IPC. Moody Aerographics sell a complete interior placard kit (very nice, but not original looking). http://www.moodyaero.com/moody_interior.html I'm not sure what they get for it.

I would think that a local graphics shop could bang one out pretty cheaply. Or maybe make one yourself if you have access to a modern label-maker. Some people are set up to produce this kind of thing on their home computer & printer.

Eric

If you only need one or two decal items you can or should be able to make them up yourself. Severeal methods could be employed. From simple to complex:

Use a simple graphics program or even MS Paint or Word to design what you need. Go down to the local Office Max or similar and buy decal paper. I use the transparent kind. Rember in you program you can fill background to "white" and text to "black" or any combination of colors you may like. After printing I spray decal with Rustoleum colorless to "fix the colors." Use several light mistings. OR if you have a laser printer (home or work) you won't need to "fix" the print as it will already be waterproof.

Next method. Take a digital camera shot of a pre-existing decal and run it off on your printer.

I have purchased "plane specific" decals in the past and they are nice but spendy and you will find that many youhave paid for are not applicable or you may already have them. You'll be paying for a lot of stuff you may not need.

My $0.03 (inflation)

Joel
N3437D

I have made stickers in this way: print what you want on an ink-jet printer using photo stock. Cut the graphic out, and apply clear package-sealing tape to the shiny side of it. Flip it over, and peel the back of the photo paper off. The shiny surface with the image on it will remain stuck to the tape. Trim the tape to within 1/8" or 3/16" of the graphic, and stick it where you want it. It's inexpensive, and doesn't look too bad in the right application.

Best Regards,

John

I was interested in this flap decal business since mine is starting to look a little ratty, and I'm always looking for excuses to spend money on my airplane.

I called a local Cessna dealer (Spitfire Aviation in Concord, NC about 30 miles away) with the part number from the IPC. That part number has been superceded by 0705004-1 (that's the one with the 10 degree setting.) Would you believe they had SIX in stock? Price, a whopping 1.61 each. But they only use UPS, not the USPS - 5.00 buck minimum shipment. I couldn't convince the stock clerk to stick one in an envelope with a 37 cent stamp, which tells me a great deal about their company. Guess I'll call Van Bortel or Yingling, unless some one has a favorite Cessna dealer they recommend. At any rate, at that price it would hardly be worth the trouble to make one, unless you enjoy that kind of thing.

I'm a little suprised this placard is still available; Cessna went to electric flaps in 1965 I think. But the 180 and 185 had them through the end in the early 1980s, which probably explains it. I wonder if they have the earlier 20/30/40 decal, or for that matter the A or ragwing. Russ Farris

I have an original early decal. In fact I have quite a few early decals. Unfortunately they do not survive wetting-and-sticking. After they've been around a few years, they turn brittle and come apart when soaking. The best thing would be for me to copy and mail or fax it to you. Send me a PM if you wish me to do so.
George Horn

For those of you with nothing to do on a long, cold winter's evening, here is a link to an article on making your own decals using decal paper and an ink jet printer. This article is from a model airplane web site and these decals are subjected to a harsh environment including nitromethane. I haven't tried it yet but plan to this winter some time. I hope this helps someone.

http://www.egpworld.com/forum/default.aspx?f=6&m=882

Bruce

George,
Any chance of you, or others with original decals, scanning them or taking close-up photos of them (preferably with a ruler in the picture) and then posting them here? My project is in need of all decals. I'll use a Dyno label maker before I pay over $50 for some of these decals from Cessna.

I've seen photos of the "Cessna" logo on the control yoke. Was this original? I don't see any listing of it in the parts manual. In fact, the parts manual seems to be pretty hit and miss regarding decals. For example, Fig. 37 lists such obscure ones as the headphone decal for the early 170b. But it doesn't show one labeling the engine primer which I found when stripping paint off the left instrument panel cover.

As most of you probably know, the most complete reference for decals and stencils is Fig. 72B for the 170B.

n2582d wrote:I've seen photos of the "Cessna" logo on the control yoke. Was this original? I don't see any listing of it in the parts manual. In fact, the parts manual seems to be pretty hit and miss regarding decals. For example, Fig. 37 lists such obscure ones as the headphone decal for the early 170b. But it doesn't show one labeling the engine primer which I found when stripping paint off the left instrument panel cover.

As most of you probably know, the most complete reference for decals and stencils is Fig. 72B for the 170B.

The Cessna logos on my yokes are painted on, rather than a decal. I don't know why that stencil doesn't appear in figure 72B or figure 61. If no one can find a good picture I'll make an attempt to take one and post it.

Miles

Moody Aero Graphics mentioned above does have the yoke decals in their catalog.

4-Shipp wrote:here is a link to an article on making your own decals

http://www.egpworld.com/forum/default.aspx?f=6&m=882

Bruce

Thanks Bruce. It works great! Even though johneb was nice enough to send me a spare decal I thought I would try to make my own from the link you provided. Here are the results of my handle refinish:

Before:


After:


You can also make placards, but this one didn't turn out too well as I tried to "paint" all the clear area with black ink from the printer, which then cracked:

Before:


After:

The flap decal looks great!

Any way to put the document you created on the club site so others may also "grab" it for printing?

Maybe a place for others to place their handiwork as well, for others to benefit from?

Kyle unfortunately like photos this file would have to be stored elsewhere as the software doesn't have a previsions to store and link to files.

Kyle Wolfe wrote:The flap decal looks great!

Any way to put the document you created on the club site so others may also "grab" it for printing?

Let's see if this link to file on MSN works:
http://www.msnusers.com/Cessna170/Docum ... eDecal.psp
It's a Paint Shop Pro file. I could convert to JPG, but I understand you lose quality via compression when that's done.

Or... here it is as a GIF. Right click on it and save it to your PC:



But you're right, it would be nice if we had a server out there to compile all our files for sharing.