FAA Advisory SEB07-5
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FAA Advisory SEB07-5
Anyone checked to see what this really means? Or is this a continuation of the prior cautions about Cessna seats not properly locking and the possible results.
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- Bruce Fenstermacher
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Bruce, you are correct. It is an advisory from Cessna, not the FAA. thanks for the correction.
Frank
Frank
OLE POKEY
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It says that service kits are available for pilot and copilot secondary seat stops. Compliance is mandatory within 200 hrs of operation or 12 months (reference Cessna Mx manuals/continued airwortiness/43.13). It goes on to say that parts and labor credits are available under a Warranty Claim. I doubt that would apply to a Cessna 170 but I am going to call our local dealer and inquire. I wonder if it would be an AMOC for the AD?
Our Cessna dealer here in Fresno just told me that this modification involves a seatbelt like device that attaches to the floor of the cabin at the front of the seat. It incorporates a belt and an inertial reel. The belt attaches to the seat. When you lock the seat in place, the inertial reel holds the seat in position (via the belt) and when you want to release the seat, there is a lever that frees the reel. Cessna will install this for no charge on the pilot seat. If you want to install it on the copilot seat the kit costs $185.00 and the labor is estimated between 1 and 5 hours depending on what model seat. It is not an AD and the dealer said that they do not believe it is "mandatory" for continued airworthiness despite the statement in the advisory. The dealer offered to order it for me right away and I am going to check it out.
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On our 170 seats the inertia reel attaches to the rear vertical structure of the seat, and the belt end attaches to the floor via a bolt. The release is attached to the front vertical structure of the seat, and then to the seat adjustment lever. As I mentioned in another post, credit is only given if installed at a Cessna Single Engine Service Center. Like this install is rocket science. I'll stick with the secondary stop I already have, plus the case of beer previously mentioned. Can't be too safe!
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Here's a link to SEB07-05:
http://www1.matthews-net.org.uk:8081/Temp/SEB07-5.pdf
See page 15 for an illustration of how the belt is attached.
http://www1.matthews-net.org.uk:8081/Temp/SEB07-5.pdf
See page 15 for an illustration of how the belt is attached.
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Reading SEB07-5 it says that it supersedes SEB89-2 which means that if you are required to comply with service bulletins then you must comply with SEB07-5 regardless what you have done in the past.
Here in the U.S. flying under FAR 91 and not for hire we are not required to comply with service bulletins though it may be a good idea to do so. This may not be the case in other countries like Greece. You will have to check with your local authority.
Reading SEB07-5 it says that it supersedes SEB89-2 which means that if you are required to comply with service bulletins then you must comply with SEB07-5 regardless what you have done in the past.
Here in the U.S. flying under FAR 91 and not for hire we are not required to comply with service bulletins though it may be a good idea to do so. This may not be the case in other countries like Greece. You will have to check with your local authority.
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I see one serious issue that has not been adressed and that I am very concerned with. There was no mentioned if the case of beer should be cans or bottles, and if bottles would wine work? (for our Female Pilots).
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N2609V
48 Ragwing
A Lanber 2097 12 gauge O/U Sporting
A happy go lucky Ruger Red label 20 ga
12N Aeroflex
Andover NJ
http://www.sandhillaviation.com
" Air is free untill you have to move it" BB.
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If gross weight is a concern, cans can reduce the overall weight making the flight much safer. Wine bottles will work however.mrpibb wrote:I see one serious issue that has not been adressed and that I am very concerned with. There was no mentioned if the case of beer should be cans or bottles, and if bottles would wine work? (for our Female Pilots).
Joe