A contest
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- Bruce Fenstermacher
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A contest
Look at the picture of a Scott 3-24B installation recently discovered.
Can you find 2 things that are wrong with this tailwheel installation. We are not talking rust. We are not talking extra chain.
George is totally DISQUALIFIED and Bill Kelsall please don't spill the beans if you remember the one thing I noticed and told you at the auction.
Can you find 2 things that are wrong with this tailwheel installation. We are not talking rust. We are not talking extra chain.
George is totally DISQUALIFIED and Bill Kelsall please don't spill the beans if you remember the one thing I noticed and told you at the auction.
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
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Re: A contest
The bracket appears to have been repaired all the way back on the nose under the stiffener.
- sfarringer
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Re: A contest
And the guard is missing from the bottom side of the shackle which ties the three lower leaves together.
Ragwing S/N 18073
Re: A contest
Perhaps the hardware store nuts, without cotter keys or nylocks?
Bruce & Kathy Rhymes
1954 Cessna 170B
N2865C
1954 Cessna 170B
N2865C
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Re: A contest
I will throw in my two cents worth. The first thing that I believe is wrong are the springs, they are for the larger scott tail wheel the original springs for the small tail wheel had two springs one inside the other. The second thing that I think is wrong is there are two spring leaf clamps.
Is there a prize?
Ragwingrick
Is there a prize?
Ragwingrick
Re: A contest
The angle looks wrong also.
John
John
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- Bruce Fenstermacher
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Re: A contest
We have one right answer. One more to go.sfarringer wrote:And the guard is missing from the bottom side of the shackle which ties the three lower leaves together.
As for the other guesses.
I can't tell from the picture if the hardware is AN or not but didn't see any common hardware when I inspected the plane. There is no repair to the bracket, that is the early bracket came.
Rick, if these were the bigger 3239 connector springs you would be correct, they'd be wrong. These connector springs do look a bit larger in the picture than the 2151 springs you get today but I believe them to be correct 2151 connector springs so that is not what I'm looking for. As for two springs one inside the other that is never correct. Are you thinking of the Maule compression springs. Don't use these, they may damage your airframe which we discuss elsewhere on the forum. And there should be a clamp on the bracket and a clamp on the springs no matter what 170 or tail wheel setup you have.ragwingrick wrote:The first thing that I believe is wrong are the springs, they are for the larger scott tail wheel the original springs for the small tail wheel had two springs one inside the other.
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Re: A contest
Looks to me as if the bolt holding the tailwheel to the spring is upside down.
Joe Craig
'56 C172 Taildragger N6915A
'46 Aeronca Champ N65HM
'56 C172 Taildragger N6915A
'46 Aeronca Champ N65HM
Re: A contest
OK, wrong answer!
But I just cheated and looked at the parts manual...
But I just cheated and looked at the parts manual...
Joe Craig
'56 C172 Taildragger N6915A
'46 Aeronca Champ N65HM
'56 C172 Taildragger N6915A
'46 Aeronca Champ N65HM
Re: A contest
flat strap and bolts being used as substitute for the u-bolt?
Del Lehmann
Mena, Arkansas
Mena, Arkansas
Re: A contest
The U-bolt was not used on the early assy.wingnut wrote:flat strap and bolts being used as substitute for the u-bolt?
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50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: A contest
It looks like there are two leaf springs going to the tail wheel.
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Re: A contest
No there isn't two main springs and you wouldn't be able to see that from this angle. I only know only one 170 with two mains springs and it's not flying at the moment and the bolt never did shear in 10 years. But that is another story to be told over a beer sometime.Watkinsnv wrote:It looks like there are two leaf springs going to the tail wheel.
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Re: A contest
It's not cheating to look at the IPC. I look at all three of them and the engine IPC all the time. Now I just downloaded a C140 IPC so I'll have to look at that when doing research for the '48.15A wrote:OK, wrong answer!
But I just cheated and looked at the parts manual...
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
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Re: A contest
You were warned that airplane would end up damaged, tho'.Bruce Fenstermacher wrote:[...I only know only one 170 with two mains springs and it's not flying at the moment and the bolt never did shear in 10 years. But that is another story to be told over a beer sometime.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.