


Based on this pilots experience, I would urge all of you to inspect your cowl door fitment, latches and hinge for wear before your next flight



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Yep, been there, done that, got the proverbial T-shirt, and it was a traumatic experience. I switched to the Dip Davis cowl latches which work well, however in hind sight I think I would rebuild the stock latches and add some sort of a post to poke through the lever with a clip for positive retention. The advantage of the sotck latches is that they are spring loaded and allow a little bit of give the fitup of the top cowl when reassembling. With the Dip Davis system it is simplier, but there is no flexibility, so when the cowl goes back on everything has to be exactly lined up.jlwild wrote:Following the Oct. 15th Dalton, GA fly-in, an early model 170B left cowl door (Fig. 48-35) popped open in flight shortly after departure![]()
Luckily the door did not rip off and the pilot returned to Dalton. It appears the forward latch (the high cowl pressure side) failed. The door was badly wrinkled. With the help of Roger Rollins tools, the wrinkles were repaired and door relatched. To make sure the door held on the flight home, a sheet metal screw and some duct tape completed the temporary repair
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Based on this pilots experience, I would urge all of you to inspect your cowl door fitment, latches and hinge for wear before your next flight. Our planes are getting older. These parts are subject to wear that can, and will, cause them to fail in flight
. If the cowl door, upper cowl door opening, latches, or hinge assembly show signs of excess wear, it's time to make repairs
Jim McIntosh is correct. About 10 years ago my left cowl door let go while in cruise mode, with my wife in the right seat. It was not a fun experience for herc170b53 wrote:I'm with you Tim, I'd like to make a new top cowl with a later style oil door and get rid of the barn doors. I believe our president may have went that route.
The subject airplane Wildman is describing is a later B-model, I believe....(?) The "Dip Davis" latch system is for the earlier, 1952 and prior cowls which have the inner air-box.Jr.CubBuilder wrote:...Yep, been there, done that, got the proverbial T-shirt, and it was a traumatic experience. I switched to the Dip Davis cowl latches ... With the Dip Davis system it is simplier, but there is no flexibility, so when the cowl goes back on everything has to be exactly lined up.
First it is important to note we have two different cowls with two different latching systems and two different cowl door latch failures.bagarre wrote:How are the latches failing?
To clear the issue up a little
First it is important to note we have two different cowls with two different latching systems and two different cowl door latch failures.
It seems by Jim's initial post description that the plane in question that had the cowl door issue was a '52 with the internal pressure box. These latches wear both in the area of the latch that catches the spring and the spring itself, that holds the latch over center. These MUST be secured in a secondary fashion IMO no matter what condition the latch and spring are in. It is these latches only that the Dip Davis system replaces.
The later B model which is one that Jim pictured has issues with the access doors. Over time from vibration the door edges and the areas the Hartwell latches contact, wear thin. They eventually start to pop open with vibration and flex unless secured with some other secondary system.