Tom,T. C. Downey wrote:A Question for Del.... When there is no registration in the aircraft, how do you know it is a US aircraft? We are only allowed to work on US registered aircraft.wingnut wrote:We are all in this, and in it together. The owner/IA relationship is among the most important interaction we can have. I still believe we (aircraft owners, pilots, and mechanics) have comparatively easy regulations to comply with. The key is communication and understanding best we can of each others regulatory environment and requirements for each of us to be in compliance.jrenwick wrote:Thanks, Del. I was thinking along those lines when I wondered if IAs should be checking for a valid registration, but you've taken it a step further by ordering the CD. Many owners and pilots misunderstand the full meaning of airworthiness and what their responsibilities are. This is where a consciencious IA can help.
I do not understand why you wait a year to bring up this question. I tried via private message and a telephone call so that you could better explain (and I better understand where you are going with this). No joy. Are you implying that I cannot sign off an annual inspection as airworthy and approve the plane for return to service if the registration cert is missing or expired? If so, can you point me to the FAR (or even an AC for guidance) that supports this? It would seem to me that having current and valid airworthiness and registration certs on board the aircraft would be an operating rule, and not a Part 65 or 43 rule, in which case not my problem. It would be the operators responsibility.
I know the following AC65-19G has been cancelled or superceded. (I recalled this paragraph from memory and had to dig up my old IA study guide materials, where it appears to read exactly as I remember). Is there some FAR or AC that supports your statement above, and those you sent to me via PM? If "we" are only allowed to work on U.S. registered aircraft, why would our FAA 337 form have a block to record NATIONALITY and Registration. I like to learn Tom. Please correct me if I'm wrong and I will publically apologize, but do NOT misquote me as you did in your PM to me and as you did on the phone. If you quote me please use the copy/paste feature.
The bold underlined is my emphasis.
"The holder of an IA should refer to the registration and airworthiness certificates for the owner's
name and address and for the aircraft make, model, registration, and serial numbers needed for recording
purposes. Be sure not to use manufacturers' trade names as they do not always coincide with the actual model
designation (Cessna Skylane is 182, Piper Seneca III is PA 34 220T, etc.). If registration and airworthiness
certificates are not available, the aircraft need not be reported in an unairworthy condition; however, the owner or
operator should be informed that the documents must be in the aircraft and the airworthiness certificate displayed
as required by 14 CFR section 91.203 WHEN THE AIRCRAFT IS OPERATED.
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