Wanted: Bartone Exhaust Extensions (merged topic)
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Wanted: Bartone Exhaust Extensions (merged topic)
Pat Bartone has had a problem with a supplier being ill and not being able to complete his order. He suggested I reach out to the 170 community to see if there are a set of stacks which someone has elected not to install. I’m looking for the style that has the downward curve at the end. Text or call 209-626-9626 or email gdfrsn(at)gmail(dot)com or PM here.
Gary
Bartone Exhaust (Moved from TradeMart)
Are they still available to purchase ?
Mapleflt
Mapleflt
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Pat is looking for someone else who will make them at a reasonable price. He said the problem is finding someone that is willing to fabricate small batches. Most want to do several hundred at a time.
Gary
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Call Pat Bartone directly; he’s in the directory. They were available as late as last year when I bought replacements for my Benhams that were damaged/destroyed at Creve Coeur. However when they came they were shaped pretty much identically to my Benhams, without the nice curve at the end.Mapleflt wrote:Are they still available to purchase ?
Mapleflt
Miles
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Re: Bartone Exhaust (Moved from TradeMart)
I had already called before you posted, Miles, left a message, and am awaiting a return call. I'm pretty sure my local shop will make them on an "as ordered" basis pretty fair-priced, but I'm wondering if, 1- Pat will supply installation approval/STC paperwork because the last I heard he would not, and 2- if he will share his drawings so I can have them duplicated, which will be absolutely necessary. Otherwise, without the two items above, ...anyone, anywhere can make their own at the local muffler shop just as well and probably a lot cheaper.cessna170bdriver wrote:Call Pat Bartone directly; he’s in the directory. They were available as late as last year when I bought replacements for my Benhams that were damaged/destroyed at Creve Coeur. However when they came they were shaped pretty much identically to my Benhams, without the nice curve at the end.Mapleflt wrote:Are they still available to purchase ?
Mapleflt
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
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50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
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I originally used Benham exhaust instead of Bartones because they were STC’d and Bartones weren’t. I think Pat may have acquired John Benham’s STC, which might help explain why the set of pipes I got from him looked just like the ones I got from John in 2006.gahorn wrote:...
I had already called before you posted, Miles, left a message, and am awaiting a return call. I'm pretty sure my local shop will make them on an "as ordered" basis pretty fair-priced, but I'm wondering if, 1- Pat will supply installation approval/STC paperwork because the last I heard he would not, and 2- if he will share his drawings so I can have them duplicated, which will be absolutely necessary. Otherwise, without the two items above, ...anyone, anywhere can make their own at the local muffler shop just as well and probably a lot cheaper.
Miles
“I envy no man that knows more than myself, but pity them that know less.”
— Thomas Browne
“I envy no man that knows more than myself, but pity them that know less.”
— Thomas Browne
Re: Bartone Exhaust (Moved from TradeMart)
DId it include STC paperwork? (Yes, I also understand that Pat bought out John's spares.)cessna170bdriver wrote:I originally used Benham exhaust instead of Bartones because they were STC’d and Bartones weren’t. I think Pat may have acquired John Benham’s STC, which might help explain why the set of pipes I got from him looked just like the ones I got from John in 2006.gahorn wrote:...
I had already called before you posted, Miles, left a message, and am awaiting a return call. I'm pretty sure my local shop will make them on an "as ordered" basis pretty fair-priced, but I'm wondering if, 1- Pat will supply installation approval/STC paperwork because the last I heard he would not, and 2- if he will share his drawings so I can have them duplicated, which will be absolutely necessary. Otherwise, without the two items above, ...anyone, anywhere can make their own at the local muffler shop just as well and probably a lot cheaper.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
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Yes, STC# SA8645SWgahorn wrote:DId it include STC paperwork? (Yes, I also understand that Pat bought out John's spares.)cessna170bdriver wrote:I originally used Benham exhaust instead of Bartones because they were STC’d and Bartones weren’t. I think Pat may have acquired John Benham’s STC, which might help explain why the set of pipes I got from him looked just like the ones I got from John in 2006.gahorn wrote:...
I had already called before you posted, Miles, left a message, and am awaiting a return call. I'm pretty sure my local shop will make them on an "as ordered" basis pretty fair-priced, but I'm wondering if, 1- Pat will supply installation approval/STC paperwork because the last I heard he would not, and 2- if he will share his drawings so I can have them duplicated, which will be absolutely necessary. Otherwise, without the two items above, ...anyone, anywhere can make their own at the local muffler shop just as well and probably a lot cheaper.
Miles
“I envy no man that knows more than myself, but pity them that know less.”
— Thomas Browne
“I envy no man that knows more than myself, but pity them that know less.”
— Thomas Browne
Re: Wanted: Bartone Exhaust Extensions (merged topic)
I would be interested in a set as well.....
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Folks, I just visited with Pat last week at his home. I did ask him about further supplies on the exhaust pipes since I knew others were looking. He said he was still looking for a shop that would build them at a reasonable price. Perhaps if we could point him toward the right shop we could get them going again. Pat is still a big fan of these planes and the folks who fly them.
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Near Enfield, CT
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Near Enfield, CT
Let's go fly!
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Re: Wanted: Bartone Exhaust Extensions (merged topic)
Diameter, thickness, material, bend radius and anything else.
Know a guy in Houston who builds race car headers for me. Good work and reasonable. Stainless or carbon steel.
Know a guy in Houston who builds race car headers for me. Good work and reasonable. Stainless or carbon steel.
1953 170B “Deuce” 25582
1951 170A “Blue Lightening” Sold 20021
1951 170A “Blue Lightening” Sold 20021
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I could use a set if there is a run going. I just had my right one fabricated and they messed up the angle so it did not fit. Took to muffler shop to put a new bend in it to lower the pipe 2" and they crushed it. Argh. So would be interested in getting one or a complete new set done correctly.
John
N3487D '56 170B
N1427E '46 7AC
N36805 '41 BC65
N3487D '56 170B
N1427E '46 7AC
N36805 '41 BC65