What place has the highest concentration of 170s?
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What place has the highest concentration of 170s?
I was just browsing through the member directory and noticed that a place called Mulberry, FL (wherever that is) has several members. It got me to wondering where the highest concentration of 170's live. How many do you guys have living at your home field? Just curious. Keith
Fun question! Lake Elmo, MN (21D) has four 170s that I'm aware of. But the real winner here is Swifts -- we've got at least a dozen on the field.
John Renwick
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
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Well Keith, having just completed the new directory I happen to have all that information as far as members go but we don't collect the info on what airport the aircraft are based at. I also don't have the FAA data of non-members but I might get it for fun.
I can tell you that at my airport, UKT in Quakertown, PA there are three B models based. At the grass strip about a mile off of UKT there is an A model and a '48 Rag Wing. The Rag Wing hasn't been out of the hanger in years but at least two of the four others of us can be seen flying together about every weekend.
I can tell you that at my airport, UKT in Quakertown, PA there are three B models based. At the grass strip about a mile off of UKT there is an A model and a '48 Rag Wing. The Rag Wing hasn't been out of the hanger in years but at least two of the four others of us can be seen flying together about every weekend.
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We have 3-4 at Palo Alto that I know of. Some come in transient. And I see a bunch at Watsonville on weekends.
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Wow - I gotta say that - talking about the 50 US states - it would be:
1. Merrill Field, Anchorage, AK
2. Fairbanks International
3. Lake Hood / Anchorage Int'l
Not necessarily in that order.
I can't imagine any other airports around the country that would match these three. Wandering around the endless ramps separating ANC from Lake Hood you could easily find two or three dozen 170's sitting around, and that doesn't even include the hangers and those on floats.
1. Merrill Field, Anchorage, AK
2. Fairbanks International
3. Lake Hood / Anchorage Int'l
Not necessarily in that order.
I can't imagine any other airports around the country that would match these three. Wandering around the endless ramps separating ANC from Lake Hood you could easily find two or three dozen 170's sitting around, and that doesn't even include the hangers and those on floats.
Richard
N3477C
'55 B model (Franklin 6A-165-B3 powered, any others out there?)
N3477C
'55 B model (Franklin 6A-165-B3 powered, any others out there?)
No fair!
Merrill by itself probably has the greatest number of lots of types, but only those that make good back-country aircraft or people- or cargo-haulers.
If Alaska wins hands-down for 170s, that simply serves as an awesome recommendation for the value and utility of this aircraft type.
Conceding defeat (perhaps prematurely, but I doubt it) on behalf of the lower 48, can we ask: where in the lower 48 are the greatest number of 170s to be found?
Merrill by itself probably has the greatest number of lots of types, but only those that make good back-country aircraft or people- or cargo-haulers.
If Alaska wins hands-down for 170s, that simply serves as an awesome recommendation for the value and utility of this aircraft type.
Conceding defeat (perhaps prematurely, but I doubt it) on behalf of the lower 48, can we ask: where in the lower 48 are the greatest number of 170s to be found?
John Renwick
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
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Here fresh from our association database are the numbers by state of association member owned aircraft.
CA 108
AK 87
TX 79
WA 53
FL 40
IL 37
MN 29
AZ 28
CO 26
OR 26
WI 25
IN 24
OH 24
MO 21
PA 21
NY 20
NC 19
MI 18
CT 17
GA 16
ID 16
TN 14
NM 13
VA 13
KS 11
MD 11
ME 11
MT 11
NJ 10
OK 10
AL 9
IA 9
LA 9
AR 7
MA 7
NE 7
SD 7
NV 6
SC 6
UT 6
KY 5
MS 5
NH 5
WY 5
WV 4
VT 3
HI 2
ND 1
There are 941 total aircraft owned in 48 states in the USA by members. 100 owned by members outside the US. If I remember correctly there are 1718 170s in the FAA registry which includes countries other than the US.
CA 108
AK 87
TX 79
WA 53
FL 40
IL 37
MN 29
AZ 28
CO 26
OR 26
WI 25
IN 24
OH 24
MO 21
PA 21
NY 20
NC 19
MI 18
CT 17
GA 16
ID 16
TN 14
NM 13
VA 13
KS 11
MD 11
ME 11
MT 11
NJ 10
OK 10
AL 9
IA 9
LA 9
AR 7
MA 7
NE 7
SD 7
NV 6
SC 6
UT 6
KY 5
MS 5
NH 5
WY 5
WV 4
VT 3
HI 2
ND 1
There are 941 total aircraft owned in 48 states in the USA by members. 100 owned by members outside the US. If I remember correctly there are 1718 170s in the FAA registry which includes countries other than the US.
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Bruce deserves a BIG gold star for his latest work on the Directory in our behalf. Everyone who attended the mid-year meeting in ABQ got a chance to pre-view the quality and organization of the document and I CAN'T WAIT for my very own copy! (You guys ain't gonna b'lieve the improved quality he achieved. On his own volition. And under a grim deadline too!)
THANKS BRUCE!
THANKS BRUCE!
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50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
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50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
YES, I must say I too am waiting for my new copy after seeing it and what Bruce did. THANKS for all your work Bruce.
John
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Bill
There is an E copy available in PDF form in the members only section. The new one isn't there yet.
This of course should be a members only discussion so I won't go into details but our printing cost have been reduced and there is a diminishing return when reducing units. Fewer units means higher unit cost which at some point equals same expense for less.
Thanks George, I was just the right guy with the right skill in the right place at the right time. I was very happy to be able to do it. The association has many skilled people willing to help which is what makes this such a great association.
Now I'm off to produce the directory PDF. Thanks for reminding me Bill.
There is an E copy available in PDF form in the members only section. The new one isn't there yet.
This of course should be a members only discussion so I won't go into details but our printing cost have been reduced and there is a diminishing return when reducing units. Fewer units means higher unit cost which at some point equals same expense for less.
Thanks George, I was just the right guy with the right skill in the right place at the right time. I was very happy to be able to do it. The association has many skilled people willing to help which is what makes this such a great association.
Now I'm off to produce the directory PDF. Thanks for reminding me Bill.
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
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BillBill Hart wrote:Time for another debate on keeping cost down. How about an E copy for those who would rather have that than a paper copy? It would have to save some money.
This idea has been discussed several times before on the forum and in board meetings. At least 3/4 of the membership insists on a paper directory that they can carry with them in the plane or car. As with all printed materials cost per unit drops dramatically with increased numbers. All members have access to an E directory on the members only page. I have used it several times in the last few months to find newer members (can't find my update pages) and find the paper version works better for me. In addition Jan (our new executive secretary) has found a printer which is printing the book for almost 40% less than the last printing cost the association. I don't know the postage cost so I can't say exactly but I think we are now spending in the vicinity of $1.25- $1.50 per year per member for the paper drectory. Cheap compared to directory assistance from the phone company.
Interesting numbers. Thanks Bruce. I suppose it makes sense that CA would have more airplanes as they have a large population. And poor Alaska.. if you calculate the number of 170s per square mile of state they don't fair so well.
Do the Swifts still migrate to Tenn every year? I remember years ago seeing a gaggle of them land in Macon, Ga enroute to their fly-in.
I don't see Rhode Island represented but I'm struggling to figure out which other state is not on the list.
Do the Swifts still migrate to Tenn every year? I remember years ago seeing a gaggle of them land in Macon, Ga enroute to their fly-in.
I don't see Rhode Island represented but I'm struggling to figure out which other state is not on the list.