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continental 0-300B fuel pump

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We just purchased a 0-300B that is going to go on our 170B project. The engine came off of a 170. The engine has a external fuel pump at the front R/H side (aft looking FWD). Why would there be a mechanical fuel pump on a carburated engine?
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Normally the gravity fed engine such as the 170 would not have a mechanical fuel pump. Low wing planes would. The TC allows for an automotive type pump.
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Post by Bruce Fenstermacher »

'48 170s are required to have a full pump. Probably because of the way the fuel lines are routed.

A and B model 170 fuel lines routes where changed and the pump was dropped. You don't need it on your B model project and might depending on it's condition be able to sell it to someone with a '48 who does.
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I believe that fuel line size also had something to do with the fuel pump requirement on the C-170. I've been told that they increased the size of the fuel lines on the C-170A and subsequent airplanes.

Those automotive style aircraft fuel pumps are VERY pricey in comparison to their cousins on automobiles and homebuilt airplanes.
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Post by GAHorn »

Insufficient head-pressure exists in the straight C-170 due to fuel line size and routing under certain flight conditions and fuel tank levels. For that reason a fuel pump is REQUIRED equipment on that installation. (Cessna borrowed certain components from the C-140 for the C-170 and they are inadequate for the larger engine's fuel flows. It was addressed in later 170 A/B models with larger tanks/lines/routing.)
Installing this engine on a C-170A or B would not be a problem, simply obtain the correct "blanking cover" for the engine and delete the pump.
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If I read the post correctly it stated an O-300B engine with a fuel pump had been purchased to go into a 170-B. Is this correct? If so, it is the first "B" O300 I have heard of with a fuel pump. All I have seen didn't have provisions for a fuel pump on the right hand side of the case. Am I remembering this correctly--only earlier O300's had the fuel pump pad?? Maybe I am confused (that kind of goes without saying :? ) but I just can't picture the fuel pump pad on my "B" engine. Maybe its because I have been spending all my time at the rear of the engine these past few months :!:
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Post by blueldr »

All of the C=145/O-300 engines I'm familiar with have had blanking pads on the fuel pump drive pad. They require a fuel pump on low wing installations too.
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170C wrote:If I read the post correctly it stated an O-300B engine with a fuel pump had been purchased to go into a 170-B. Is this correct? If so, it is the first "B" O300 I have heard of with a fuel pump. All I have seen didn't have provisions for a fuel pump on the right hand side of the case. Am I remembering this correctly--only earlier O300's had the fuel pump pad?? Maybe I am confused (that kind of goes without saying :? ) but I just can't picture the fuel pump pad on my "B" engine. Maybe its because I have been spending all my time at the rear of the engine these past few months :!:
Look on the right side, close to to breather tube it will be where the cam is internally to the engine. It will kinda look like a diamond with I beleive two nuts holding it on. Even though I don't know what airplanes the 0-300 goes on except for the 170/172 I'm sure there are others that may have been low wings. (or 170's that requried a fuel pump)
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Post by Dward »

A large number of stock Swifts are flying with C-145/O-300's and they use the mechanical fuel pump. The GC-1B's were originally produced with the C-125, which also uses this same pump, but almost all have been converted to either the C-145/O-300 or the IO-360 Cont. An old mechanic once told me that a C-145 was a "stroked" 125. A spare fuel pump is a prized possession for those guys with the 145s.
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Post by mrpibb »

I have the O 300c installed on my 48, the the fuel pump was installed to meet the tc for the 48 fuel feed requirements.

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