Assist Straps
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Assist Straps
Hi Guys,
I would like to gain some information on the assist straps which are
found on the 170's. I have a 49 c170a and of course they were not an option.
I am assuming that the metal 'holders' are the problem pieces to be found.
Are there any places where they are being made today, say for a antique
car?
The reason for this request is I have a girlfriend who is only 5'1'' and she loves to fly but I hear about how hard it is to climb into my 170.
Any help or direction to some good info is greatly appreciated.
Also I just had a bad experience with getting part of my plane repainted
with Jenny Aviation in New Jersey. Do not go there.
I would like to gain some information on the assist straps which are
found on the 170's. I have a 49 c170a and of course they were not an option.
I am assuming that the metal 'holders' are the problem pieces to be found.
Are there any places where they are being made today, say for a antique
car?
The reason for this request is I have a girlfriend who is only 5'1'' and she loves to fly but I hear about how hard it is to climb into my 170.
Any help or direction to some good info is greatly appreciated.
Also I just had a bad experience with getting part of my plane repainted
with Jenny Aviation in New Jersey. Do not go there.
Bob Ohlson
N3857V '49 170A
N3857V '49 170A
While you might not find an exact match, you could check out LeBaron Bonney who specializes in antique auto restoration products. I had these folks recover my straps on '82A.
http://www.lebaronbonney.com/
Seems to me I've also seen the same straps on the rear of some C195 seats (attached to the back of the front seats as a hand hold for rear seat px and for entering/exiting the aircraft). I don't know if they are original to the C195 design or if someone stuck them on later. Can any 195 folks shed any light on that angle? If they are original to the 195 then I would also check with the 195 restoration houses like The 195 Factory ( http://the195factory.com/ ) or Barron Aviation ( http://www.barronaviation.com/Default.aspx?tabid=36 )
http://www.lebaronbonney.com/
Seems to me I've also seen the same straps on the rear of some C195 seats (attached to the back of the front seats as a hand hold for rear seat px and for entering/exiting the aircraft). I don't know if they are original to the C195 design or if someone stuck them on later. Can any 195 folks shed any light on that angle? If they are original to the 195 then I would also check with the 195 restoration houses like The 195 Factory ( http://the195factory.com/ ) or Barron Aviation ( http://www.barronaviation.com/Default.aspx?tabid=36 )
Doug
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I have never seen the straps on a 195 like you mention but my 1958 C-180 has them and were original from the factory.
The ends are a simple casting and should not be hard to make out of brass. Belt buckle manufacturers would be a good place to start. Anacortes Brass Works used to be one in Anacortes, Washington back in the 1980's but they are gone now.
I have never seen the straps on a 195 like you mention but my 1958 C-180 has them and were original from the factory.
The ends are a simple casting and should not be hard to make out of brass. Belt buckle manufacturers would be a good place to start. Anacortes Brass Works used to be one in Anacortes, Washington back in the 1980's but they are gone now.
Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
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Assist Straps info
Thanks Guys for the info. I will be checking these leads out and let you all
know if I find anything.
Thanks Russ for your offer to check Hemmings.
know if I find anything.
Thanks Russ for your offer to check Hemmings.
Bob Ohlson
N3857V '49 170A
N3857V '49 170A
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I just got a replacement strap last month from JW Duff in Denver.
He had several pair at that time, because he offered different colors.
He quoted me $75.00 plus shipping for one strap. When I got the strap, he only charged $65.00 no shipping. Interesting individual:) Had me fax the info. Then send payment after I got the part.
Happy New Year!
Forrest
He had several pair at that time, because he offered different colors.
He quoted me $75.00 plus shipping for one strap. When I got the strap, he only charged $65.00 no shipping. Interesting individual:) Had me fax the info. Then send payment after I got the part.
Happy New Year!
Forrest
Living the Dream!
Assist Straps Brackets
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the info, would any one have the part numbers for the
Assist Straps "Brackets"...................... I see that I did not explain
myself enough, I have in need to find the "Brackets" first and in order
to start I believe I would need the part numbers for the "brackets".
I believe all 'B" models came with them. I have a C170A parts manual
but it does not list the "Brackets" part numbers.
Thanks for all your help.
Thanks for the info, would any one have the part numbers for the
Assist Straps "Brackets"...................... I see that I did not explain
myself enough, I have in need to find the "Brackets" first and in order
to start I believe I would need the part numbers for the "brackets".
I believe all 'B" models came with them. I have a C170A parts manual
but it does not list the "Brackets" part numbers.
Thanks for all your help.
Bob Ohlson
N3857V '49 170A
N3857V '49 170A
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I stand corrected. Anacortes Brass Works IS still in business and would be interested in casting the end fittings for us out of silicon bronze which is very tough and readily accepts chrome plating. They usually make belt buckles and trinkets but will do small jobs like this. If anyone is interested, contact them at: http://www.anacortesbrassworks.com/
Richard Pulley
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
2014-2016 TIC170A Past President
1951 170A, N1715D, s/n 20158, O-300D
2023 Best Original 170A at Sault Ste. Marie
Owned from 1973 to 1984.
Bought again in 2006 after 22 years.
It's not for sale!
I tried calling several yards with no luck. I haven't called them all tho so maybe I'll still get lucky. These are apparently very popular items.N2865C wrote:I have had pretty good luck for finding oddball parts like this by calling around to the salvage yards listed in Trade a Plane.
Karl
'53 170B N3158B SN:25400
ASW-20BL
'53 170B N3158B SN:25400
ASW-20BL
Re: Assist Straps Brackets
The "B" model IPC gives a part number for the assist strap, which is 0511001-129. This appears to include the attachment hardware at the ends of the strap, because there isn't a separate part number called out for those -- just the mounting screws. Probably the same thing you saw in the "A" model IPC, I'll bet!Bobo wrote:...I have in need to find the "Brackets" first and in order
to start I believe I would need the part numbers for the "brackets".
I believe all 'B" models came with them. I have a C170A parts manual
but it does not list the "Brackets" part numbers.
Thanks for all your help.
John Renwick
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
- Bruce Fenstermacher
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Bob
The assist straps, buckle and strap are one unit. Here is a picture of a set that I might have available for you if you want to go to the trouble and expense of having them redone
You will notice that they have one screw holding them top and bottom which is different from all car straps I was able to locate on the web which used two screws top and bottom.
If you aren't worried about originality I'd go with one of the car models like these I found here.
http://www.mikes-afordable.com/miva/mer ... _Code=1122
or these at
http://www.mikes-afordable.com/miva/mer ... _Code=1122
The assist straps, buckle and strap are one unit. Here is a picture of a set that I might have available for you if you want to go to the trouble and expense of having them redone
You will notice that they have one screw holding them top and bottom which is different from all car straps I was able to locate on the web which used two screws top and bottom.
If you aren't worried about originality I'd go with one of the car models like these I found here.
http://www.mikes-afordable.com/miva/mer ... _Code=1122
or these at
http://www.mikes-afordable.com/miva/mer ... _Code=1122
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Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
Assist Straps Brackets
Thanks Guys for this good info.
Bruce,
Thanks for the link to Mike's, I will research this a bit more and let you
know what I will be doing.
Bruce,
Thanks for the link to Mike's, I will research this a bit more and let you
know what I will be doing.
Bob Ohlson
N3857V '49 170A
N3857V '49 170A