170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Zreyn, one thing you might try is: Loading your airplane to the average wt you normally fly at, and with a couple of heavy-duty plastic garbage bags laid one upon the other.....two sets of them .... each set directly in front of your main wheels about 3 or 4 feet.... You and a buddy push on the left/right struts in a straight line and push your main wheel upon the garbage bags. Then look to see if the bags have remained largely stationary...or have they twisted/screwed themselves all in a wad and/or torn... indicating your main wheels need alignment.
At 2,000 lbs operating weight, your wheels should have zero camber and zero toe-in/toe-out. Toe-in/out errors can really make the airplane handle "squirrelly".
Wheel alignment is adjusted with "shims" placed between the axles and the main gearlegs.
At 2,000 lbs operating weight, your wheels should have zero camber and zero toe-in/toe-out. Toe-in/out errors can really make the airplane handle "squirrelly".
Wheel alignment is adjusted with "shims" placed between the axles and the main gearlegs.
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
blueldr wrote:George is absolutely right!
If you will take the time to go to the gym and bulk up those muscles, you'll be able to lift that baggage over the back seat and wont have to chop open the side of your airplane and put a door in it.
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Gar, I have a special message for you:
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
gahorn wrote:Gar, I have a special message for you:
George, Where did yu find that?.......I love it
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
In reference to the above, are you talking about the avitar or the activity?
BL
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Ovecourse it is the avitar.......but.....not butt....anyone that has an unusual problem with me (not that I don't cause problems)...can Kiss my..................blueldr wrote:In reference to the above, are you talking about the avitar or the activity?
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Has anyone figured out why there is no one around when you make a really good landing? And when you "fly it into the ground" or bounce it really good, your wife or mother in law is on board and all your friends are next to the runway watching.
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
GAY HORN IS THE "SHORT" ONE DOIN THE KISSIN - - -gahorn wrote:Gar, I have a special message for you:
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Blue leaders comment is absolutely priceless - a real three pointer (pun intended)!!!
It is a gray and wet day in the northeast but this thread has brightened my day and has me wishing I had George's avatar of the guy rolling on the floor laughing.
It is a gray and wet day in the northeast but this thread has brightened my day and has me wishing I had George's avatar of the guy rolling on the floor laughing.
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Who put the end on my post?....... THANKS!...... I wish I knew how to do that.Brad Brady wrote:Ovecourse it is the avitar.......but.....not butt....anyone that has an unusual problem with me (not that I don't cause problems)...can Kiss my..................blueldr wrote:In reference to the above, are you talking about the avitar or the activity?
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Dosn't that have something to do with one of my close Irish relitives.......Murphy?...voorheesh wrote:Has anyone figured out why there is no one around when you make a really good landing? And when you "fly it into the ground" or bounce it really good, your wife or mother in law is on board and all your friends are next to the runway watching.
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
Compliments of the moderator.Brad Brady wrote:Who put the end on my post?....... THANKS!...... I wish I knew how to do that.Brad Brady wrote:Ovecourse it is the avitar.......but.....not butt....anyone that has an unusual problem with me (not that I don't cause problems)...can Kiss my..................blueldr wrote:In reference to the above, are you talking about the avitar or the activity?
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
George,
You are just out of this world with your "SPECIAL" knowledge.
John
You are just out of this world with your "SPECIAL" knowledge.
John
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Re: 170B Landings short or long, wheel or 3pt
First law of applied aerodynamics: "The quality of any landing is inversely proportional to the sum of the number of people watching and riding along."voorheesh wrote:Has anyone figured out why there is no one around when you make a really good landing? And when you "fly it into the ground" or bounce it really good, your wife or mother in law is on board and all your friends are next to the runway watching.
In algebraic form:
Q=1/(Pw+Pra)
Only when the pilot is the only witness (Pw + Pra=1) can the quality of the landing be 100%.
Miles
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