Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
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Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
From Avweb:
Mechanic Charged With Falsifying FAA Credentials
If you've had any work done by "The Plane Man" in Casa Grande, Ariz., you might want to have it checked by an A&P before your next flight. A federal grand jury has charged Glen Forsyth, 43, with five felony offenses resulting from a 100-hour inspection on an Alon Ercoupe in July of 2008. A week after the annual, the engine failed and the aircraft was written off in the off-airport landing that followed. LawFuel.com reported the post-accident inspection "caused FAA aircraft safety inspectors to believe that the fuel pump had not been properly inspected."
So, naturally they asked to talk to Forsyth and discovered that he was signing off airplanes with a number issued to another man in 1968. It's not that Forsyth is completely untrained, but he's failed the FAA exams three times and the agency is alleging he didn't take the hint and find another line of work. Forsyth has been charged with three counts of making false statements to a government agency and two counts of fraud involving airplane parts. Each charge carries a maximum penalty of five years in jail and a fine of $250,000.
Mechanic Charged With Falsifying FAA Credentials
If you've had any work done by "The Plane Man" in Casa Grande, Ariz., you might want to have it checked by an A&P before your next flight. A federal grand jury has charged Glen Forsyth, 43, with five felony offenses resulting from a 100-hour inspection on an Alon Ercoupe in July of 2008. A week after the annual, the engine failed and the aircraft was written off in the off-airport landing that followed. LawFuel.com reported the post-accident inspection "caused FAA aircraft safety inspectors to believe that the fuel pump had not been properly inspected."
So, naturally they asked to talk to Forsyth and discovered that he was signing off airplanes with a number issued to another man in 1968. It's not that Forsyth is completely untrained, but he's failed the FAA exams three times and the agency is alleging he didn't take the hint and find another line of work. Forsyth has been charged with three counts of making false statements to a government agency and two counts of fraud involving airplane parts. Each charge carries a maximum penalty of five years in jail and a fine of $250,000.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
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50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
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- Showboatsix
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Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
As I have asked before, Does the FAA issued license make you a good mechanic? Or does it simply make you "legally responsible for the work you just performed"?
The fact is I have met many unqualified A&P's who have a FAA license in their pocket, and a few very qualified ones who don't!
The moral of the story is, "check the guy out first, watch the type of work he/she does".
The fact is I have met many unqualified A&P's who have a FAA license in their pocket, and a few very qualified ones who don't!
The moral of the story is, "check the guy out first, watch the type of work he/she does".
UAO, Aurora Oregon
Hanger 26
56' C-172, With Conventional Gear Conversion
S/N 28963
N6863A
Hanger 26
56' C-172, With Conventional Gear Conversion
S/N 28963
N6863A
Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
Just making a happy commentary... technically speaking, the FAA does not "license" anyone. They "certificate" airmen and repairmen.
Whether or not a person is properly "certificated".... they are responsible for their work. IMO
Whether or not a person is properly "certificated".... they are responsible for their work. IMO
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
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Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
Semantics of words..... is the glass "half full or half empty!"
The results are the same.
The results are the same.
UAO, Aurora Oregon
Hanger 26
56' C-172, With Conventional Gear Conversion
S/N 28963
N6863A
Hanger 26
56' C-172, With Conventional Gear Conversion
S/N 28963
N6863A
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Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
[quote="Showboatsix"]The fact is I have met many unqualified A&P's who have a FAA license in their pocket, and a few very qualified ones who don't!
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Using the first type makes you unfortunate, unwary, or unwise as the case may be.
Using the second makes you complicit.
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Using the first type makes you unfortunate, unwary, or unwise as the case may be.
Using the second makes you complicit.
Richard
N3477C
'55 B model (Franklin 6A-165-B3 powered, any others out there?)
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'55 B model (Franklin 6A-165-B3 powered, any others out there?)
- johnsunday
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Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
So, from a guy who's been there, here's a retorical question....If the guy who signs off your annual, isn't a certified A&I, can you be charged with an FAR violation? Answer, yes you can. You are quilty of "Flying an Aircraft in an Un-ariworthy Condition." Neat stuff, huh.
When it comes to the Government, correct paperwork counts more than results.
John
'54 B N2786C, Beat up ole Alaska Bushplane
When it comes to the Government, correct paperwork counts more than results.
John
'54 B N2786C, Beat up ole Alaska Bushplane
Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
The OWNER is responsible for maintaining the aircraft in an airworthy condition. Who you contract to do that work is obviously a serious matter.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
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Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
I think it would depend. If you were unaware the guy wasn't licenced, and everything seemed normal, I would think you'd be considered a victim of the scam.If the guy who signs off your annual, isn't a certified A&I, can you be charged with an FAR violation?
If you were aware, and used this guy because he did work with an illegal certification everytime he signed for his work, I would think you'd be just as much to blame than the guy who actually did the work.
If this guy did good work, great. But if he did good work with knowing about his incorrect certification, he's totally liable and he's welcome to enjoy the fruits of his labour.
Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
If I was at Casa Grande, I'd take my stuff to Tony Frost.
He did the covering on an Interstate Cadet that he restored.
Good mechanic, Upstanding no-nonsense guy.
He did the covering on an Interstate Cadet that he restored.
Good mechanic, Upstanding no-nonsense guy.
1952/1996 C170B Turbo. Why? Because, thats why.
CFI/CFII at KDYL
CFI/CFII at KDYL
- learaviator
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Re: Beware maintenance done by Glen Forsyth
He signed off the last couple of annuals on my plane, before I bought it, and he should be taken out and shot, talk about unsafe! The FAA sent me a letter as the new owner saying that several A.D.'s were in question as well as brake pads and the whole annual in general. When I questioned the condition of the aircraft while I was buying it, the local mechanic said that the IA (Forsythe) that signed it off knew that the owner was old and would not be flying it again, so he signed it off. Now that is some statement to make. Plus the mechanic that told me that said it like it made sense. Not a lot of integrity there.
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1950 170A N9907A 180hp. STOL
1950 170A N9907A 180hp. STOL