
Plugs
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- Brad Brady
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Plugs
Guess which plugs came from the left Bank
.....Brad

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- Brad Brady
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Re: Plugs
This is normal in all C-145's and O-300's.....I've known about this for thirty years.....I just haven't seen it this pronounced before, I lean agelessly.....but I leased this aircraft back, for the last 40 HRS. To a local flight instructing airport. I'm sure they don't use my.....maybe not so FAA approved, ideas of checking carb heat....I check on base, then turn off... If I think I need more...then I check as necessary. I thought this picture was worth a thousand words.It has been known that the left bank burns richer.....But why? Can it have a reason because of prop wash?...Maybe down wash making pressure and up wash making draft? or visa-verse? I have no idea...I'm sure there is an engineer out there that can answer this question..... But your guess is as good as mine.....Brad1SeventyZ wrote:Ewww....
Humor me-- -Why the radical difference in combustion between left side to right? Issues with your intake left side?
- jrenwick
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Re: Plugs
I've never seen anything like this on my O-300s. Is the intake air baffle inside the oil pan in good shape? Are the mags wired correctly, left mag to all the bottom plugs, and right mag to the top ones? (I had to fix the wiring on my 170, because somebody had "helpfully" split each mag between top plugs on one side and bottom on the other.)
John Renwick
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
Minneapolis, MN
Former owner, '55 C-170B, N4401B
'42 J-3 Cub, N62088
'50 Swift GC-1B, N2431B, Oshkosh 2009 Outstanding Swift Award, 2016 Best Continuously Maintained Swift
- Brad Brady
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Re: Plugs
John,jrenwick wrote:I've never seen anything like this on my O-300s. Is the intake air baffle inside the oil pan in good shape? Are the mags wired correctly, left mag to all the bottom plugs, and right mag to the top ones? (I had to fix the wiring on my 170, because somebody had "helpfully" split each mag between top plugs on one side and bottom on the other.)
Everything is in order.....I have seen this before.... but only when burning mo-gas.....this is 100LL with TCP.....Go figure.........Brad
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Re: Plugs
4-Shipp wrote:It is the sfister valve, of course! Don't forget to check the ball bearings...everything's ball bearings these days
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Re: Plugs
As previously indicated earlier on in the posts, my experience with the C145/O-300 is that leaning technique matters a bunch.
"You have to learn how to fall before you learn how to fly"
- GAHorn
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Re: Plugs
I've never heard of the C145/O300 having an endemic problem such as this, and can only suggest it's not. The left mag fires the lower plugs 2-degrees prior to the right mag firing the upper plugs to alleviate a lower-plug-fouling problem typical of all horizontally-opposed engines, but that is the only consistent pattern of fouling I've ever heard of, and even that is usually traced to worn valve-guides.
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.
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An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons.

- Brad Brady
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Re: Plugs
George,gahorn wrote:I've never heard of the C145/O300 having an endemic problem such as this, and can only suggest it's not. The left mag fires the lower plugs 2-degrees prior to the right mag firing the upper plugs to alleviate a lower-plug-fouling problem typical of all horizontally-opposed engines, but that is the only consistent pattern of fouling I've ever heard of, and even that is usually traced to worn valve-guides.
I think your on to something here....I leased the aircraft to a local flight instruction airport in the spring and early summer, so I thought I would service the engine with Aeroshell 15W-50 so they wouldn't have to worry about making an "oil cocktail" with the changing temps. with the straight weight oils I usually use. I'll bet that the guides are getting worn and the 15-50 is passing by more readily than the straight weight AD oil would. I've always seen this ......just not this pronounced.....Brad
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