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Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:04 am
by krines
I agree with you guys on the vacum pump, my whole intention was an engine that I could find parts for. Since my last post I have located a yellow tagged crank or two for the 145 for 8000 or 10000 smackers. This was a prop strike and a new prop is in the works. So George if I where to install an 0-300 crank is there an STC, can I use the same cam and other assorted parts connected to the crank or will those all change as well ? Steve

Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:54 am
by Bruce Fenstermacher
Steve,

All the parts with a few exceptions are the same for all models of C-145 or 0-300. The biggest difference between the C-145/0-300A or B and the 0-300-C, D and E is the crank on the later is a 6 bolt crank verses the 8 bolt in the earlier. Of course the D and E also have an angle starter and those parts are different.

There are ways to install a later C, D or E six bolt crank in a C-145/0-300 A/B and still call your engine what ever model it was. Or you can in effect change what your engine was to a C or D depending on if you also change the starter. If you don't change the model of your engine you don't need and STC to reinstall it. If you change your engine model you need our STC to install it.

Now granted, not all IA's agree that all of the ways to change engine models or use newer cranks in older models is still available for use so you would want to discuss this with your IA before setting on a plan.

Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 4:12 am
by blueldr
Remember that he had a prop strike and will need a prop anyway.

Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:07 am
by krines
Thanks Bruce that helps alot. I am learning alot more about our ole 170 than I ever wanted to know. Don't let this happen to you.
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Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:33 pm
by GAHorn
OUCH!

Was this a short-landing demonstration? ...or was it a tailwind-landing event? Or perhaps a fast-taxi with hard braking and failure to hold Up-Elevator?

The lower nose cowl may be difficult to replace. Beware of differences in Carb air-scoops in lower cowls.

Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:01 pm
by blueldr
They're a real SOB to get out of when parked that way, aren't they.

Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:35 pm
by krines
Well its a long story but I will make it brief. This is an alfalfa field I have landed in over 200 times. Right next to the Bighorn river. Excellent fishing. I guess I should be more clear this is an irrigated alfalfa field. I always make a pass a ten feet looking for water and that day I did not see it. The rancher opened the flood gates on these fields 2 hours prior to the event so water was actively washing across the fields. By the time I circled to land it started filling up. I touched down wheel landing on dry ground but on the run out hit the deep water. I was too slow to try and save it by adding power. Besides the explosion of water was rather impressive. Saw it all happening in slow motion. Of the first 5 fisherman to show up to aid me I knew 3 so the secret was out. 3 mile walk of shame to the ranch house to round up 4 of the cowboys to help me pull it out of the field. A great landing is on in which you can fly the plane away and a good landing is one in which you walk away from so that there folks was a good landing. Thank god for hooker harnesses. Not even a scratch Steve

Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:51 pm
by c170b53
Joe Scoles is selling a lower cowl in the recent monthly

Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:19 pm
by Bruce Fenstermacher
c170b53 wrote:Joe Scoles is selling a lower cowl in the recent monthly
No. Joe Scoles knows of one for sale. That is different.

Re: Crank and Cam failure

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 2:54 am
by c170b53
Correct, he knows of one for sale and its for a "B"..... So Nevermind. :D