Real Word performance on the "B" model

[W.J.Langholz]

What is the real world performance on the "B" model
STOCK
Normal TO roll
Normal Landing roll

Short field performance

GPH low med high


Thanks
W.

[hilltop170]

W-
Check out this link, it will tell you everything you need to know about the B model.

http://cessna170.org/forums/membersOnly ... Manual.pdf

[W.J.Langholz]

Richard
I was looking for a bit more than the operators manual. These are middle of the road performance figures very similar to my old 56 172. I could get that to perform better than what the book says.
Because I have not flown a 170 and I know that there are individuals that are on this forum that make their 170's work for them I was hoping to get some numbers from a working plane so to speak. People that are not careless but that can get every bit out of their aircraft.

W.

[W.J.Langholz]

Thanks Aryana. As stated a while back in some of my post, I'm looking for a second plane ......
A Sunday flyer so to speak. nothing fancy 30k or less. Looking at the day where I may not get a 3rd class so have been leaning towards a LSA . Champs, early Citabria, Stinsons, Taylorcrafts, Rans, Highlander, Kitfox. Next would be the ease of getting in and out (don't bend in all the places like I use too). Fuel economy is important along with type of fuel. Take off and landing is also important as I may in the future have 1000' feet or less to come and go.
As I was searching the other day I happened across a 170B (not a show plane) but o.k. in the price range, certainly fits the ease of getting in and out, everyone tells me not to worry about the LSA thing that it's going to change. Have access to Auto fuel with no ethanol in it so now it's down to the 'REAL" performance and my comfort level and training for short field operation. I have several spots that it may be a "section line" for a runway.
Any addition info or thoughts would be much appreciated.

Thanks

W.

[blueldr]

My stock '52 B model flew pretty much right on the numbers in the little owners handbook.
Surpriseingly, after I installed the IO-360, the cruising fuel burn was exactly the same if I flew the same old airspeeds, but my cruising climb time to cross the sierras dropped from 35 minutes to15 minutes at about 90MPH.

[W.J.Langholz]

Bluelder,

Although I have not been with Mr Pulley in the 170 that much, I have in the 195 and he has the ability to finesse his plane ......just saying.....

I did glean from that little book a few reminders however ie cabin width at the shoulders .....people must have been smaller in the 50's

Thanks all

Willie

[robw56]

For a normal landing roll in no wind conditions, it's as little as 50'-75' with 40 deg of flaps touching down at 40 mph in a 3 pt full stall.

I'm gonna call BS, look at all the past results for the Light-Touring Class at Valdez, there's nothing that short... and there's always wind. I was out flying the other day making shortfield landings on grass with a slight headwind, heavy braking and dumping the flaps as soon as I touched down. I measured the distance with my measuring wheel, it was about 180ft each time. And that's with a Sportsman leading edge.

[blueldr]

I never tried measuring it, but with double puck brakes and a full stall three point landing on dry pavement and immediately putting the maximum weight on the main landing gear, the ground run can be VERY short. The tail comes down with a bang, though!

[hilltop170]

It all boils down to whatever your pocketbook will allow. These airplanes WILL stand on their nose.

[GAHorn]

Dubya...the airplane actually performs almost exactly like the Owner's Manual (and the duplicate stats in the AFM) says it will.
The most likely difference in what you have observed versus what has been printed about performance in Owners Manuals....is likely the result of test differences. The official stats are at STANDARD day....GROSS WT....ZERO wind.

Chances are YOU took off/landed ... UNDER gross, and into a headwind. It makes a big difference.

My B-model does EXACTLY what the book says it will. (Of course, MY Owner's Manual is printed in B&W, but it was indeed a RED airplane depicted on the cover!)

[Bruce Fenstermacher]

My B-model does EXACTLY what the book says it will. (Of course, MY Owner's Manual is printed in B&W, but it was indeed a RED airplane depicted on the cover!)

Of course it was RED. Cessna had to stop using Green when they made the B model or they would have had to beef up the structure to handle the speed.

[bagarre]

That....is short.

[hilltop170]

Good flying, nicely done!

[blueldr]

Though I've flown in to HAF any number of times, that's the first time I ever saw a picture like that of it.
Before WWII that was a flodded swamp full of tules where I used to hunt ducks when I was a kid. In 1942 I drove a dump truck, while waiting to be called to active duty in the Army, hauling fill from a quarry in El Granada to fill up the swamp to build the airport for coastal protection. I sure did a good job, didn't I.

[blueldr]

The airport, HAF, is actually in between Moss Beach and Princeton where I spent a lot of time as a kid. The resturant in Moss beach called Dan's Place was owned by Dan Bertoloti, my dad's bootlegger. I think that's why we spent so much time over there. We lived over on the other side of the hills in Burlingame. Dad always said that Dan made the best whisky he ever drank, and he used to patronize him even after the repeal of the 18th ammendment in 1932 when whisky became legal again.
The village of Princeton at the south end of HAF is the sheltered bay where the fishing boats used to bring the booze ashore from the Star Of Scotland which stayed out beyond the twelve mile limit. It was said that the skipper of the coast guard cutter that hung out there was paid by the case for the stuff brought ashore.