What hone to use to cut glaze and prep cylinders

How to keep the Cessna 170 flying and airworthy.

Moderators: GAHorn, Karl Towle, Bruce Fenstermacher

Post Reply
User avatar
Bruce Fenstermacher
Posts: 10423
Joined: Tue Apr 23, 2002 11:24 am

What hone to use to cut glaze and prep cylinders

Post by Bruce Fenstermacher »

I'm reinstalling my cylinders on my Cub and using new rings. I of course want to hone the cylinder to cut the glaze and prep the cylinder to break in the new rings.

What type of hone are those that have done this using. A 3 stone cylinder hone? A ball or flex hone? What grit? What abrasive?

These cylinders are chromed if that makes a difference.
CAUTION - My forum posts may be worth what you paid for them!

Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
User avatar
blueldr
Posts: 4442
Joined: Thu May 02, 2002 3:16 am

Post by blueldr »

If you're just breaking the glaze and cleaning up the cylinders for a "Top", a "Dingleberry" hone seems to work best for me on this kind of job.
BL
User avatar
Bruce Fenstermacher
Posts: 10423
Joined: Tue Apr 23, 2002 11:24 am

Post by Bruce Fenstermacher »

Yes BL before the world with the internet with more information than you want at your finger tips I would have just gotten a "dingleberry" hone (what a technical name 8) ). they are also known as "Ball" or "Flex" hones.

But alas besides several names they now come in several flavors ie abrasive types and grits.

Yes I'm just breaking the glaze for a reinstall with new rings after a tear down and rebuild to replace the crank, 75 hours after overhaul. (eeerrrrrrrr)
CAUTION - My forum posts may be worth what you paid for them!

Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
mrpibb
Posts: 395
Joined: Wed Apr 23, 2003 10:48 pm

Post by mrpibb »

Hey Bruce, a 4" flex hone or a tad smaller for the A series would do the trick, on a chrome a quick hit with a 240 grit along with honing oil should suffice. make sure the cylinder is cleaned thouroughly before assy (but you know that).
Vic
N2609V
48 Ragwing
A Lanber 2097 12 gauge O/U Sporting
A happy go lucky Ruger Red label 20 ga
12N Aeroflex
Andover NJ
http://www.sandhillaviation.com
Image

" Air is free untill you have to move it" BB.
User avatar
Bruce Fenstermacher
Posts: 10423
Joined: Tue Apr 23, 2002 11:24 am

Post by Bruce Fenstermacher »

Thanks Vic. I bought a 4 1/8" flex hone 240 grit but have yet to use it. C-85s which is the engine cylinders I'm doing have the same bore as our C-145 at 4.065". The 4 1/8th" flex hone has a range of 4" to 4 1/8th".
CAUTION - My forum posts may be worth what you paid for them!

Bruce Fenstermacher, Past President, TIC170A
Email: brucefenster at gmail.com
User avatar
GAHorn
Posts: 21295
Joined: Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:45 pm

Post by GAHorn »

A pretty good article for break in (including notes about channel-chrome) is: http://occonline.occ.cccd.edu/online/rf ... 0Right.pdf Another is: http://www.shell.com/static/aviation-en ... 2_2007.pdf

Use mineral (non-AD) oil and run it hard until consumption stabilizes and cyl. head temps fall.

Channel-chrome is made by short periods of electrolysis current-reversal. Don't be too aggressive with re-honing. All you want to do is remove any existing glaze.... not actually polish channels out .... or remove chrome material. (Flood the cylinder with safety-solvent while honing. Do not use flammable solvent. Keep a good "up-and-down" movement during honing to produce a "figure-8" pattern in the cylinder. Don't over-do it when honing. Just rough it up a bit. Ten-seconds is a lot.)
'53 B-model N146YS SN:25713
50th Anniversary of Flight Model. Winner-Best Original 170B, 100th Anniversary of Flight Convention.
An originality nut (mostly) for the right reasons. ;)
Post Reply
Cessna® is a registered trademark of Textron Aviation, Inc. The International Cessna® 170 Association is an independent owners/operators association dedicated to C170 aircraft and early O-300-powered C172s. We are not affiliated with Cessna® or Textron Aviation, Inc. in any way.