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Fuel Lube

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I've been asked several times recently where/how/what is "fuel lube".

It's a synthetic grease which does not dry out or gum up and is used to assemble fuel valves, connectors, primers, etc.. It is not affected by fuel and is intended to keep moving parts lubricated so that galling/spalling is not a problem.

While Parker used to make the stuff it appears they've stopped. (Rumor has it that their product had a dangerous ingredient but I don't know if that's true or not.)
A supposedly identical product is "EZ Turn" lubricant, which meets the same Mil-Sped Mil-G-6032D (same as SAE-AMS-G-6032). Available in 5-oz tubes, enough for you and all your buddies (or 1-lb cans for the recent A&P school graduate who needs a lifetime supply.)

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Since EZ-Turn isn't affected by fuel, it also isn't affected by many other hydrocarbon solvents. Scuttlebutt in the RV (Vans, that is) world is that it's advisable to do what you can (disposable gloves, etc.) to keep this stuff off your hands, as it can be difficult to remove.

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Yes, the literature from the MSDS recommends nitrile gloves.
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Looks like Skippy Peanut butter got some on my sandwich the other day and it taste like it to. :lol:
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Also works well for holding screws on screwdriver when installing kick plates
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Would this be useful in lubricating my primer?
Even though my mechanic rebuilt it last annual it is very stiff and difficult to stroke.
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It's a synthetic grease that is unaffected by fuel and solvents and valves/primers is what it purports to keep lubricated.
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fishdoc wrote:Would this be useful in lubricating my primer?
Even though my mechanic rebuilt it last annual it is very stiff and difficult to stroke.
George answered your question in an indirect way but I can say the I have successfully lubed a stiff primer I've had.

I would make sure the o-rings are good in fact I'd just replace them, they have probably swelled a bit. While your at it look into the primer tube and make sure there is no gunk like stuff in there. I had some and cleaned it with a cotton patch swab and solvent. New o-rings lubed with fuel lube and all has been well for years now.
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Thanks for th e replies fellas.
I'll attempt lubricating and replace the O rings if that doesn't work.
Will WD 40 do any harm to the O rings or other components?
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Brad Brady wrote:
fishdoc wrote:Thanks for th e replies fellas.
I'll attempt lubricating and replace the O rings if that doesn't work.
Will WD 40 do any harm to the O rings or other components?
I started to say that WD 40 is nothing but fish oil....You can use it as a condiment on your breakfast toast if you want , it won't hurt anything...It is a good fix-it all...I use it on the shaft of the primer, run a couple of pumps.... and usually all is well.
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Can't say if it was WD40 that swelled my o-rings up once or not. Probably not though.

So no I can't say one way or another but the fuel being pumped throught the primer with probably wash the WD40 off in order rendering it in effective anyway.
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I have used WD40 to lube my primer and it has worked well, but as Bruce said, it is temporary. I have also used LPS-1 with the same results. I suppose I should just change the O rings.
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My primer was really stiff in cold weather.....(0*f)...so after reading these posts I decided
new O rings and a cleaning were in order. My mechanic friend suggested fuel lube but I was
worried about it being too stiff in the cold.....so....I elected to go without fuel lube.
Cold day......same stiff primer ....I mean really stiff. So we take it apart once more and
put a little fuel lube on the o-rings.....just to shut him up.
Put it back together and presto.......just like friggin' butter.............
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